Ham pr disasters 38! Ailing king? Or heartless son?

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Continuing the criticism…still interested, still not bored….

Didn't Gabor diagnose h with ADHD? I think H is a lethal combination of dimness, narcissistic and a non empath and unfortunately he doesn't have any good people around him to help

Learning disability is another ND condition

As is narcissism

So true !

I’ve been following these threads with interest and amusement, thank you, you very funny lot!

the move back has been a big surprise but here is what I think has happened:

• M did a big number on H at the beginning as she desperately wanted to live back in the US and use her “evaluated” (to coin a favourite M word) status to get her in with all the A Listers. She played into H’s fears to convince him they were not safe in the UK.
• The US hasn’t worked out. H’s mental health has declined as he doesn’t fit in there and has no purpose. M has been desperately trying to make it work jumping from one failed project to the next. All whilst dealing with a DH who is losing the plot more and more every day.
• Realising it’s not working but still not wanting to move back to UK, M carries on and on that it’s not safe for them in the UK so H continues fighting UK Gov for protection and taking on the paps. All in a bid to hopefully move back one day.
• Finally, M sees that the only way to save her marriage is if they trial a UK return. She needs this marriage to work right now. None of her personal endeavours have worked out. Any divorce settlement was pre-agreed in the prenup when she had very little power and won’t be nearly enough for her to live off at the level she wants to.

So that’s my theory. I’m unsure as yet whether M intends to try and make the move a big success or whether she will do the opposite.

That's rather worrying considering he was an Army Officer involved in combat going around Afghanistan in a helicopter blowing people up !

Welcome papercup 👋

Yes agreed....TBH I'm sceptical about some of these claims...

I know lots of folks will say "ah but royal privilege" but the Army would have been taking a hell of a risk twenty years back accepting him if he really was significantly ND.

Moving on, conditions such as diagnosed ADHD were a disqualifing condition for flying roles in aviation until very recently- in the civil world there has been some relaxation in the rules, not sure about the military.

I've also heard enough accounts from some involved in his flying training to comvinced he was a normal student....and no, you've really don't get through flying training if you are thick.

You won't survive (possibly literally) in the flying game, certainly in the military one, if you have poor impulse control, poor.executive function etc...

So...if he is genuinely demonstrating signs of a condition then just maybe it's only relatively recently started to manifest in a manner that's obvious to the public..

Any divorce settlement was pre-agreed in the prenup

I had no idea about this, do all have prenups?

Would Diana and Sarah have had them?

They are burning through quite a few “friends “, aren’t they?

There isn’t an infinite supply of multi-millionaires.

Yes and yes.

For the literary minded amongst us - a riff on The Wasteland by TS Eliot:

The Wace Land

September is the cruellest month, breeding
Conkers out of the dead land of exile, mixing
Memory of the palace with desire for shade,
Stirring dull roots with Autumn rain on Wace’s lawns.
Harry and Meghan, the hollow pair, using
Ian’s islands, his private acres where the sun beats
And the dead tree of monarchy gives no shelter,
The cricket of cameras no relief, and the dry stone
No sound of water—only the villa’s hush,
A heap of broken images under borrowed roofs.

Profound. Very profound.

In the absence of staff, I've spent the morning WFH doing WHH (waist high housework). If it's waist high, I wipe it!
Cleaners day off, gotta give them some time off I suppose. Life can be difficult sometimes but I'm soldiering on.

😂😂

@Rentfreeinyourhead

Love it!

But did he have an important role in the army or is it all HAM's spin? Meg recently hugely exaggerated his army career and they were again a laughing stock. Any images of H in the army is him poking his head out if a tank with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth

I’m going with and, not or.

The thing is we can see the core symptoms and are aware that they have been present since childhood. We don’t though, know enough about the extent to which trauma and substance abuse, and other mental illnesses contribute to his presentation, and aren’t in a position to make a diagnosis. We can however, hold opinions on his behaviour. Which is appalling and has been throughout his adult life.

No I don't think so

Just another excellent example of her freakish attention to detail

Found it!

Thank you. AI has its uses. I’m surprised no tabloid has used this headline yet.

Wow, thank you Papercup.

To be fair an awful lot of army personnel have ADHD, just not necessarily diagnosed, and are very successful.

The unique thing about Harry is that he is an arrogant arse.

It seems unlikely that they did considering at the time of Diana’s marriage they were legally unenforceable.

I think that was Victoria Jackson but , as I said earlier , I read that she had distanced herself from HAM .

The phrase ‘once bitten, twice shy’ comes to mind.