Ham pr disasters 37! Will the blame remain in abeyance too?

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Continuing the discussion, still interested, still not bored!

Andrew lownie on Kinsey S. He has it on good authority that Charles Spencer found HAM unbearably rude and is in no hurry to meet up with them again

Allow me to give you a free summary; booze, drugs, petulance, greed, anger, todgers, Elizabeth Arden Eight Hour Cream, dog bowls and some very tall tales.

I am not suggesting he take an actual job but that he find a way to quietly spend his time helping people in some capacity and just focus on that and raising his children until the dust settles.

Cut the PR crap and knuckle down and stop vying for attention.

I do think this would be the best thing for him mentally and would be good PR but he's too entitled

Titled at the moment …..

Charles was 26 years off being Duke of Lancaster.
His mother had to loan him money to pay Diana the £17 million.
Harry might not have that much money -but his family does.
And if his family want the children to be raised here and for Meghan to keep all the videos and diaries to herself they will need to tip up a large 8 figure sum IMHO.
It depends just how much dirt she’s got on Harry,
The RF have had enough mud slinging in the last decade -what would they prefer? Slightly less money in the coffers and a semblance of peace -or all out war with MM?
I know which I would choose.

There is no upside to giving into blackmail. IMHO, the RF should channel Wellington and say "publish and be damned!"

Again, in this era of a super charged news cycle something else will come along to shove M off the front pages within hours. And given M's low polling and track record of varying recollections, only a handful of M's Sussex Squad loyalists will give her book any credence.

Sad to say, A&L do not have the same familial connection to KC3 and the wider family as B&E had to QE2 and the wider family...all due to the reckless actions of A&L's parents. So there isn't even the same emotional leverage that got Sarah her 400,000 pounds.

https://apple.news/AjZ7YXZsyR7Oc6O4uxlR1Fw

So the 'revenge dress' is going to auction in December. Do we think that M will want H to buy it for her?

With regard to Harry, yes, there are photos of him having fun with William and Catherine, and I'm sure his family loved him - and probably still do.

There are also photos of him punching a photographer and musician, stories of him pushing women into a pond at a house party, the 'white pill' story, the Nazi fancy dress, the LA party - all of which came during the time his image was being 'managed' by the palace 'men in grey suits'.
We also have his own words in Spare about how he laughed at the disabled matron; most adults, if they weren't too ashamed to put that in a book, would express regret and show how they now thought differently.

Would he have been better if he'd 'found a nice home counties girl' and settled down? That's coming perilously close to blaming a woman for a man's misdeeds...
Perhaps things after his marriage could have been better or different with someone else - but the women he went out with previously, who were 'royal-adjacent' for years, didn't want to marry him.
How much of that was not wanting the role - or not liking how Harry behaved?

Yes. Which is why MM may have to make her move sooner rather than later IMO.
If HaM carry on as they are the Palace will eventually have no option but to remove all titles. Birthright titles or not -they will have to act.

All of this is just my opinion, me speculating- so, to everyone I’ve already replied to, let’s just wait and see.

Agree. It would never end with blackmail. What could she say that she hasn't already said ? Racism, they wouldn't help her when she was suicidal? She's a proven liar. She can however, sell all about her catastrophic hubby but he's now a private citizen

I think he got too wound up and acted rashly when he didn’t get his way. He tried to exercise power over the monarchy that didn’t exist, trying to please and protect his wife whom he had actually failed to protect and support.

Moving the way they did was a terribly rash mistake, particularly for someone that had so little true life experience and had always been protected in most ways himself.

Now they’ve done it again. It would be difficult to do even with planning and support and they clearly have little of that.

He couldn’t afford it,
Plus she couldn’t carry it off.
Diana had a fabulous figure and beautiful legs.
And lovely shoulders too.

And now burnt bridges with CS now ffs. H really has nowhere to go

What?

Wish we could recap this thread somehow. I really can’t keep up.

Have I missed something??

Harry has never given any indication that he’s a kind person 😵‍💫
Very much the reverse.

I do need to get out more 😂 Andrew lownie on Kinsey S. He has it from a reliable source that Charles S found them unbearably rude in July and won't entertain them again

All you can really say is 'It's a shame for the poor lad'.

Andrew lownie on Kinsey S. He has it on good authority that Charles Spencer found HAM unbearably rude and is in no hurry to meet up with them again

Reposting 😂😂

Oh yes, harry really had super life, surrounded by friends and family. He did get stuck in, and seemed to enjoy having the status without the pressure of kingship. Mike T said recently he knew H when he was fun. Agree it cant all be pr.

He really could have married anyone, but ended up with a 36 year old divorcee gold digger and social climber. Its like a noel coward play!

If he has used the visa issue to get home, things will be looking up despite the doom and gloom. Next is to get the dc in school, which suspect M is totally against as will be a lack of control. Those dc will never forget nor forgive not being able to say goodbye to friends Ime.

Do imagine H on the train being really loud ' I'M ON THE TRAIN! NOT BEEN RECOGNISED YET. OF COURSE IM WEARING THE CROWN YOU GOT ME. DID GEOFF GIVE US A DISCOUNT?

GOT TO GO, AM GOING TO WALK UP AND DOWN KEEPING A LOW PROFILE.

Ooof. Right, I’m off to watch that.
I may just have another Ringtons biscuit since the last one ended up all over my iPad.
Night my lovelies!

Just watching Cats do Countdown and there was a joke about them, basically saying H made a mistake marrying M.
They are just a laughing stock now.

I thought his Feb 2026 emotional talk with parents who lost children due to cyberbullying by showed a caring, empathetic person.