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Ham pr disasters 37! Will the blame remain in abeyance too?

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jeffgoldblum · 10/09/2026 19:45

Continuing the discussion, still interested, still not bored!

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Lunde · 11/09/2026 19:06

Choux · 11/09/2026 13:00

In my opinion it’s looking more and more like the surprise relocation is to enable Meghan to get Harry closer to the royals at least geographically and then Meghan will play the victim being hounded out of the country again by a mean family and racist public. She will try to take the Sarah Ferguson route to continued fame and fortune. although will no doubt try to get as much money from KCs funds for a divorce settlement first. Time is of the essence as a KW would not give her anything from his funds.

So a post divorce book looms. She must have learnt a lot from Harry publishing Spare about advances and global syndication - getting her name all over the press now will really help with making her book a hot read. A joint Netflix doc on the move back, a doc on the 30th anniversary of Diana will fill the marital coffers. And then potentially a spin off on her post separation life in the US and her own post divorce book will fill her own coffers. She can max the financial gain hard in the next two years and then see what opportunities await. The kids are her ongoing link to the British monarchy and Americans are still somewhat fascinated by upper class British life. There will be some opportunities.

Parents don't pay divorce settlements - it is down to Harry to use his millions to pay for his kids

Sarah Fergusson got very little comparatively when she divorced AMW - it was estimated she got
£350K - lump sum
£15-20K a year allowance
A one off gift from QEII of around £500K to buy a house for herself and the kids

DobbyTheHouseElk · 11/09/2026 19:06

Gosh these threads go so fast, I’m struggling to keep up. I think MM is waiting to see what happens next, PH is the canary, Then she will fly away to cali and divorce. They are so unpopular I can’t see her wanting to stay. She will release a book post divorce no doubt. Slamming the RF.

PH will be his generations “weird uncle” sent off in disgrace to a random part of the country.

cheezncrackers · 11/09/2026 19:08

Notmybestusername · 11/09/2026 18:13

Ooooh maybe MM has gone quiet because she too is very rural now in her cottage idyll and finding for herself the joys of an English country mobile phone network. Making preserves. As ever.

I imagine there is a fair amount of panic and discord in that household atm and posting on Insta is the last thing on Megsy's mind.

This was their final roll of the dice. Nothing had worked out for them in California. All the big deals are gone. 'With Love, Meghan' was a bust. As Ever flogged some jars of jam initially to their diehard fans, but there aren't enough people buying to make it a long-term success. They've alienated and pissed off the rich and influential and they've been called out repeatedly in the entertainment industry bibles. She's a bully, he's clueless, they're toxic to work with and for, they reek of failure. So they had no other options open to them except this - coming back to Blighty and hoping to wheedle their way back into the RF - and Charles has just firmly shut the door in their faces.

I'm pretty sure they weren't expecting that. After all, there is no precedent for such a thing (mainly because there has never been a need for one before). I think they'd thought they could bring their faux royal schtick to the UK and it would all work out, because no one said anything when they did pranced around in Colombia, Nigeria, Jamaica, Australia, making out that they were visiting royal dignitaries. But Charles has no say what happens in other sovereign nations - he does here - and he's shut them down. They can live here as private citizens, visit charities as private citizens, but they aren't working royals. Their plan is dead in the water.

Lunde · 11/09/2026 19:15

Lifestooshort71 · 11/09/2026 15:30

Someone is bankrolling them but I don't think it's KC.

Ian Wace the billionaire? No idea why?

AlexandraCarrington · 11/09/2026 19:17

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William was only just fifteen when she died. So she decided that for a 14yo and a 12yo. Way to mess up both your kids. Perhaps it goes someway to explaining H's resentment, if he grew up being told he should be king.

I think one of the Royals said a long while ago that Royalty are there to "shine a light on what other people do"

Yes, it's never about them. Someone said once that they never look at the camera - their focus is always on the people they've come to meet.I

PH will be his generations “weird uncle” sent off in disgrace to a random part of the country.

In the past you'd pack your undesirable relative off to some remote part of the Empire. But I don't think any part of the (former) Empire would have him.

RastaMouse99 · 11/09/2026 19:17

OhNoooooooooooooooo · 11/09/2026 17:06

She never called herself Princess Diana. That was just the media.

That lot never have to call themselves anything, everyone knows who they are. They never, ever have to introduce themselves.
The Princess of Wales is now often refered to as Princess Kate, it's obviously a PoW thing.
The only one I've heard mentioned is Princess Michael of Kent. A private citizen.

shanghainights · 11/09/2026 19:22

cheezncrackers · 11/09/2026 19:08

I imagine there is a fair amount of panic and discord in that household atm and posting on Insta is the last thing on Megsy's mind.

This was their final roll of the dice. Nothing had worked out for them in California. All the big deals are gone. 'With Love, Meghan' was a bust. As Ever flogged some jars of jam initially to their diehard fans, but there aren't enough people buying to make it a long-term success. They've alienated and pissed off the rich and influential and they've been called out repeatedly in the entertainment industry bibles. She's a bully, he's clueless, they're toxic to work with and for, they reek of failure. So they had no other options open to them except this - coming back to Blighty and hoping to wheedle their way back into the RF - and Charles has just firmly shut the door in their faces.

I'm pretty sure they weren't expecting that. After all, there is no precedent for such a thing (mainly because there has never been a need for one before). I think they'd thought they could bring their faux royal schtick to the UK and it would all work out, because no one said anything when they did pranced around in Colombia, Nigeria, Jamaica, Australia, making out that they were visiting royal dignitaries. But Charles has no say what happens in other sovereign nations - he does here - and he's shut them down. They can live here as private citizens, visit charities as private citizens, but they aren't working royals. Their plan is dead in the water.

I totally agree with your point. They did not expect that. They will have been blindsided.

Lunde · 11/09/2026 19:23

KilkennyCats · 11/09/2026 16:20

The difference now is that all these charities he’s insisting on gracing with his presence don’t have to entertain him. They can adopt a “palace says no” stance with the full backing of KC.

They'll have to accustom themselves to a cup of coffee and a value custard cream rather than a couple of nights for themselves and their entourage in a 5* hotel 😂

smilesy · 11/09/2026 19:23

Lunde · 11/09/2026 19:06

Parents don't pay divorce settlements - it is down to Harry to use his millions to pay for his kids

Sarah Fergusson got very little comparatively when she divorced AMW - it was estimated she got
£350K - lump sum
£15-20K a year allowance
A one off gift from QEII of around £500K to buy a house for herself and the kids

Agree. What does it have to do with Charles financially if the Sussexes were to divorce? She can’t get a settlement from her father in law just because he is the one with more money. Yes there might be a one off “goodwill” payment, as he clearly doesn’t want to see his grandchildren without a decent home, but that would be it

bluegreygreen · 11/09/2026 19:25

@AcrossthePond55 Unfortunately he's on this page, announced on 10/09

More global leaders...

AlexandraCarrington · 11/09/2026 19:25

The Duchess of Gloucester was Princess Richard of Gloucester for the first couple of years of her marriage, until the previous Duke died and Prince Richard inherited. She would always have been Princess Richard, if Prince William, the elder son, hadn't been killed in a pane crash.

shanghainights · 11/09/2026 19:28

bluegreygreen · 11/09/2026 19:25

@AcrossthePond55 Unfortunately he's on this page, announced on 10/09

More global leaders...

I bet Meghan is gutted she's not going.

bluegreygreen · 11/09/2026 19:29

AlexandraCarrington · 11/09/2026 18:47

But his constant media coverage will make a mockery of the 'working royals' concept because he'll be doing the 'work' they do whilst being royal.

No he won't. Working royals support their causes and patronages consistently over years - decades in some cases. They work behind the scenes as well as just turning up to visit somewhere.

And if they do make a one-off visit somewhere, it's for a purpose, not just because they fancy doing a bit of charity work. Like Princess Anne visiting a Jewish community centre in Manchester recently. A visit from a high ranking member of the rf has far more impact than a visit from H&M.

Exactly.

Princess Anne worked with Save the Children for 10 years before making speeches about them in public.

William's mental health initiative announced this week (bringing together multiple sportspeople) is part of a wider programme that has been ongoing for several years.

As someone else said above - their role is to support behind the scenes, and shine a light on others' work.

Lunde · 11/09/2026 19:30

BunnyBunbunbun · 11/09/2026 16:37

Radar Online, hmm....

I find it hard to believe that the Diana Award had even intended to have a gala dinner. It's a bit low key for that kind of thing. I also find it difficult to believe that William would nix it (he doesn't even run it so it's not his decision) just because Harry was going to appear when they've always "presented" on alternative years.

Don't the Diana Award have online award announcements anyway? That seems to be what they've done in the past.

Edit for typos.

Edited

You are talking about 2 different events

The actual Diana awards which are an online event this year in November

The gala dinner at the Raffles Hotel in London in September that I think was a fundraising event. Harry was expected to attend and it was scheduled for the week that he was normally in the UK for Well Child. There were rumours weeks ago that Meghan wanted to attend (launch her comeback) but that organisers were struggling to sell tickets as people didn't want to be part of the "HAM show" - although I think Harry alone would have been welcome to attend. I don't think that it had anything to do with William though.

shanghainights · 11/09/2026 19:30

Fondmemories · 11/09/2026 18:19

Maybe she actually has to take care of her own children and cook and clean. That'll be a shock for her. Apparently they are struggling to find staff.

In the pissing rain and cooler temperatures!

AustenitesUnite · 11/09/2026 19:31

AlexandraCarrington · 11/09/2026 19:25

The Duchess of Gloucester was Princess Richard of Gloucester for the first couple of years of her marriage, until the previous Duke died and Prince Richard inherited. She would always have been Princess Richard, if Prince William, the elder son, hadn't been killed in a pane crash.

Absolutely true. It's strange you should write about her now because I've just been watching the 9/11 memorial event that was held in the forecourt of Buckingham Palace this morning

The Duke & Duchess of Gloucester were there, standing throughout the whole event. They are 82 & 80 years old. They do so much, quietly & respectfully, and without much press coverage

bluegreygreen · 11/09/2026 19:33

They come across as lovely people, @AustenitesUnite.

PlotTwistPending · 11/09/2026 19:37

KilkennyCats · 11/09/2026 11:06

The puss on that…

Good grief not heard that for decades! Last time I was brave enough to say it, got a clip round the lug for swearing!

AlexandraCarrington · 11/09/2026 19:39

The Duke & Duchess of Gloucester were there, standing throughout the whole event. They are 82 & 80 years old. They do so much, quietly & respectfully, and without much press coverage

Roles they never expected to take on when they married. He had his profession, which he would have been expecting to pursue.

She is always so elegant.

One of his long term patronages of course is the Richard III Society, both of them being Richard Duke of Gloucester.

shanghainights · 11/09/2026 19:40

PlotTwistPending · 11/09/2026 19:37

Good grief not heard that for decades! Last time I was brave enough to say it, got a clip round the lug for swearing!

We didn't dare to say it !!! 😂

bluegreygreen · 11/09/2026 19:48

And the proper Royals keep on royalling ...

(sorry, off topic, just thought it was lovely and low key compared to all the hype)

Ham pr disasters 37! Will the blame remain in abeyance too?
Ham pr disasters 37! Will the blame remain in abeyance too?
myrtleWilson · 11/09/2026 19:49

Arf at the telegraph describing Harry as 'the retired royal' in the archived link way upthread. I saw that chartreuse Carey Mulligan is also at the CGI event

PlotTwistPending · 11/09/2026 20:06

AcquadiP · 11/09/2026 17:32

So although I expect that it made him feel very, very 'royal' and important I have a feeling that there isn't going to be a huge press pool showing up to cover these 'engagements'.

A couple of work experience kids with a pocket Canon 📸 should suffice 😂

I wish all the newspapers would have a rota and take turns for one of their reporters to turn up to his events, and then share the pics with the other outlets.

Cismyfatarse · 11/09/2026 20:06

Harry announces string of pseudo-royal engagements

https://www.thetimes.com/article/adda51a9-3902-4a4a-9883-5c4772c531c1?shareToken=127377d922887a2b34cf05cbe13be52c

OlympicWomen · 11/09/2026 20:12

Cismyfatarse · 11/09/2026 20:06

Oh my god, I'm embarrassed for him.
It references the unfortunate poll, as well 🫣

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