Ham pr disasters 37! Will the blame remain in abeyance too?

[jeffgoldblum]

Continuing the discussion, still interested, still not bored!

On a purely personal level I'd have thought any woman would prefer a husband with more intelligence and integrity, but even if Meghan knew what integrity is I doubt anyone with it would consider her an option

I expect this list will die a quick death like Meghan’s 40:40 etc

No new charity with an ounce of sense will want to appear on it. No-one will want to appear at one of these events with him

Someone is bankrolling them but I don't think it's KC.

Who?

Not sure how you have drawn that conclusion, they have behaved exactly as the Palace expected hence the statement release, the Palace knew they were going to try and be pretend royals, the only ones who look ridiculous are Harry and Meghan.

I definitely think Pa is bank rolling them too

As long as they behave, I expect. And also paying directly for things such as their house or school fees rather than giving them a wodge of cash to spend as they please, which could end up being spent on dodgy charities or faux-royal tours.

Staff in the UK, since they allegedly arrived last month?
I'm sure they hired plenty of labour in the US, but discrete, skilled domestic staff in the UK know their value. Norland nannies can choose who they work for, ditto butlers and housekeepers.
We will (probably) never know if they have managed to find top quality domestic staff, but i doubt there's been an orderly queue forming at the door.
Their reputation is appalling.

It was reported that Ian Wace was assisting them financially with their move to the Uk.

Am I correct in assuming that this means Harry sent his itinerary to the “royal rota “ ? , the very journalists he insulted and mocked and tried to spin into some nefarious royal controlled conspiracy?
that “royal rota” ? , the same one he vowed he would not invite or brief about any of his activities?
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I completely agree.

For me, one of the most striking images from the Queen's Platinum Jublilee was taken at the thanksgiving service at St Paul's Cathedral. Harry and Meghan had been seated immediately in front of the Queen's most senior protection officer, Major Johnny Thompson, who was clearly studying the interactions between them, even leaning forwards at one point. Given the Queen personally arranged the seating plan, this seating arrangement was not by accident.

The message was crystal clear: we do not trust you. Given they're both incredibly vain, I imagine they studied all of the pics and videos of themselves from the jubilee, but neither appear to have grasped this very powerful visual message.

They appear to be living in their own little la-la world where they feel free to hurl insults and lies one minute but are affronted and no doubt 'surprised' when they're not welcomed back with open arms the next.

Was that a "sources say" "report"?

Yes Jeff, didn’t they say they were only going to use up and coming journalists of their choice as well when they flounced?

Can’t remember.

They're both unpleasant people with lots of insecurities but they're different, and unfortunately the combination of their personalities was deadly.

Meghan seems to have researched Harry and effectively stalked him, and he was just ripe for the picking, having lost 2 gfs who shied away from royal life.

She then mined his tiny brain for information about all his resentments, insecurities, grudges etc and knew exactly how to press all the buttons. She particularly pressed the 'I lost my wonderful mother, Diana' button in all kinds of creepy ways. Harry was just too stupid to see what was going on. He ignored a whole beachful of red flags.

I'm sure she had Katherine in her sights even before she came to the UK, but one little comment from Harry such as 'You'll love her - she's been like a sister to me!' would have sealer K's fate. And the fact that Meghan then realised she was expected to kow tow to Katherine - well, that was it. Light the blue touch paper and scarper!

They've been a disastrous combo, especially for Harry. What he needed was a sensible, resilient, outgoing woman who (metaphorically) kicked him in the backside, told him to grow up and stop moaning about the highly privileged hand fate had dealt him.

How does things like this even come up in a conversation..!? Oi Ian, we want to move back to the UK, you wouldn’t mind paying for it, would you? I’ll text you my details.

How do they get other people to pay for them? And what’s in it for them!?

What about a security detail named HAVOC

We get some retired army sarg who's gotten bored of the allotment and two RAF cadets (or scouts, whatevers at hand, any uniform will do) who could do with work experience and some of those Bluetooth headsets that celeb bodyguards have.

Sell it to Hazza as special security just for HaM and the Hamlets, and job done. They feel "safe" (I.e. like they've won) so they stop moaning* and the RF/actual security forces don't have the mither of trying to keep pandering to missives from the Markles.

*Moaning about this, at least.

I am side-eyeing KC3 the enabler.

How is any of this a surprise to KC3 and his team of advisors? The absurd mollycoddling of a 42 year old man needs to end and consequences need to be delivered.

KC3 needs to remove HaM from the website, relieve them of the HRH and Prince titles, have Andy relieve H of his Duke titles (twofer with AMW) and demand public apologies to the UK government, veterans, judiciary, palace staff, family and general public, plus a one year period of complete silence on family from the date of their last apology to ever again be in his presence via phone or in person.

HaM can be as reckless as they wish as Mr. and Mrs. Mountbatten-Windsor. And they can throw the biggest temper tantrum they wish...it will be over in half a news cycle as people don't really care...they're in it for the popcorn.

I absolutely agree that Harry doesn’t mean well, but I think you are giving him too much credit to say that he knows exactly what he is doing. He acts
like he does because he isn’t getting his way, not because he has some overarching idea of attacking the monarchy. He’s not that bright. He just thinks he is “getting one over” on everyone. I think his sneering about the UK is potentially driven by his wife originally wanting to leave here and go
back to the States. Obviously they look a bit silly now they have come back here for whatever mysterious reason. But although they are very thin skinned when it comes to receiving criticism, they are very thick skinned when it comes to their own hypocrisy

Sorry for the multiple posts. Rural area shoddy signal.

It was reported that Ian Wace was assisting them financially with their move to the Uk.

Just looked him up because I hadn't heard of him. Why would be want to assist them? He seems to be fairly low profile with a reputation to maintain. Why would he want to get dragged into the drama?

He has his own philanthropic endeavours; I hope he doesn't let H&M get their sticky paws all over them.

Definitely.

I think that was the occasion when it was convincingly rumoured that they were wearing wires. Meghan has a big collar and keeps on and on adjusting it - or something just underneath it. You can also see the outline of a wire running down her white coat-dress.

The other crazy thing about that occasions was that she had asked Dior to copy one of Wallis Simpson's outfits. To wear to a royal occasion! There are only 2 possible interpretations of that: either she is monumentally ignorant of history and pretty stupid or she was deliberately sticking up 2 fingers to QE and the RF.

And I dread to think what it cost...and whether Charles had to pay for it!

I really hope that that was a sartorial blunder in ignorance but I can't help but think choosing to dupe the wardrobe of an American divorcée* who blew up the monarchy (no gun powder required) would be a deliberate act of treason by couture.

*I am divorced, and not averse to Americans but it was the scandal of the age back then.

H is another AMW scrounging off all and sundry, he doesn't care what they want in return as long as it doesn't cost him. AMW was happy to be forwarding sensitive emails to Epstein without even reading them. He wasn't concerned about insider trading he was doing a favour for his biggest financial sponsor/procurer of all sorts. H also has zero morals and I can't help wondering why he is so keen to have free access to the security services info, he is too thick to understand it himself. Let's face it he has announced to the world how little security his family have when not working! Imagine the shit he says when half cut.

I think, unfortunately for Britain, any sensible, resilient woman would tire of the half blood spare prince of moanington very quickly. Even if it meant reluctantly handing back the second-best tiara.

(Tried to quote a pp, phone says no.)