PR disasters thread 33

[BigWillyLittleTodger]

A shiny new thread for September Sussex shenanigans!

That's actually one reason I'm a little bit uncomfortable with the wording of the letter that went out from the school (if indeed that was the real letter).

A letter reminding about the safeguarding/social media policies is one thing. A letter specifically referencing famous or well-known people joining the school sounds like it might have been sent at the request of the Sussexes, and makes me a little concerned that the school may be setting themselves up for difficulties.

I have some experience of a situation where parents were treated slightly differently because they were considered to be in a 'special situation' and allowances had to be met; looking back over several years that meant that boundaries were gradually but steadily pushed so that the situation ended up being very difficult.

🤣 I’m afraid you are alone on that one Bigwilly! , although I was obsessed with bagpuss and mr Ben!

They're so desperate.
It's actually quite sad, and not great for the kids.

I loved them too! Happy days! Anyway back to the HAMs!

It really is outrageous. They really are scuppering any chance of their children thriving in the UK

Yes happy to leave it there. Not point scoring. Just trying to clarify. I wasn’t saying they were not famous. Of course they are. I was questioning the relevance of this is all 🤷‍♀️

I think it’s because MM is even here or if she is has zero intentions of ever doing the school run ot being seen in public on Salty Island. Shes managing expectations to avoid the ‘where’s Meghan’ media. Odd that she is claiming it’s not safe for her to drive to school in a bullet proof car with security detail - whilst PH is secure enough to be announce to be standing on any and every exposed playing field watching Archie play rugby for the next 15 years. Very easy to get hold of fixtures and locations which have zero security.

Its all a load of BS because she either isnt here or isnt staying long.

That's the worst part. They've chosen a life of fame and publicity; they're middle aged adults.
The children haven't chosen this. It's not good.

Is the suggestion that the children will be fine if she's not there, but that her preference will require armed police to keep her safe?

If I thought the only safe way for me to take my children to school would be if accompanied by armed police protection, then they wouldn't be going to that school.

Any links to these reports? It all sounds baffling and nonsensical.

Perhaps MM can launch some lingerie under the brand name:

“The Duchess of Gusset.”

Apparently she never did school run in Cali. It was either the nanny of H (if he was awake). She was never seen at the school. Never got involved in sports days, etc. H/ nanny did.

Obviously we don't know but I really don't think Meg is a hands on parent at all. Her conversations regarding her children, parenting etc is bizarre and stilted. Being a mom is her super power etc

If only Oliver Postgate was still with us. I'm sure The Hams could have been a marvellous stop-frame animation with a lovely, cosy narration.

Famous or nationally/politically sensitive?

There are many children of presidents or royalty who are educated in Britain without all of this drama - mostly because their PR's don't announce itineraries and they don't constantly feed the beast by placing stories with friendly journalists on the HAM WhatsApp group

For example - Recently the heirs to the actual thrones of Spain and Belgium did their 6th form years at a school in Wales. Was there any drama or even much publicity?

Malia Obama used to spend college holidays with her boyfriend in Islington without drama or incident.

I know someone who reported to RAVEC, and it's been in the news that there were genuine plots/convictions related to Meghan.

However, my friend's capacity was to report on the MH characteristics of those threatening/with an obsession. E.g. did they have harmful intent, did they have capacity to plan and commit harm? Other risk factors such as false trails (catfishers convincing people that Meghan/Catherine/Eugenie etc are in love with them and them coming to interrupt the wedding). Then the overall character of culture that influences the mentally unwell/extremists when they form obsessions.

And I sincerely doubt that the risks that were present in 2018-23 are the same now. BLM occupied a lot of cultural bandwidth then, but the current space is occupied by Israel v Palestine. Ham aren't entirely neutral in that space, but they rank much further down the list of obvious targets for it.

And beyond all that, "being frightened" isn't really an assessable criteria compared to "actual threat".

Do we even know their names?

Of course they don't have scented candles to remind us of their names and ages - although I can't think who buys candles that smell like a 7 year old boy ... it's a bit creepy

I know. I feel your pain! Let's tell ourselves that he'd had some terrible previous experience which explained his paranoia. I mean - no-one would have dreamt of staring at him.

(sorry folks - just referring to something a few pages back, not HAM-connected)

Power to the People?

In respect to me, I didn't make an unholy row. I said something that many people disagreed with and I responded. As is allowed.

And as this shows, I certainly haven't ceased communications. I just know that MNHQ on the last thread asked for there not to be extended back and forths.

But of course I'm sure you are not referring to me and this post is coincidental

Why do you assume it is about you?

Take a wee think and wonder who the thread refers to please.

Agreed. The Sussexes really don’t seem to understand that most things in life that need a practical solution can’t be based on “feels”, but need evidence to show there is a need. I’m pretty sure it’s not so much that they are frightened but that they feel the need to look important anyway 😆

I've addressed this specific point upthread. Famous. Only famous. Public name recognition. Not nationally/politically sensitive. I've already agreed there's likely to be children at the school whose situation is more politically sensitive.

I think what Meghan is really scared of is a) being ignored, which in the UK would be the polite response to a celeb encountered in everyday life and b) possibly being snubbed? Perhaps she's been told that the demographic in teh Cotswolds is likely to be conservative and royalist and she fears backs being pointedly turned, or similar?

I think that under that flashy, over-confident exterior there's probably a very insecure woman who doesn't really know WHO she is, and the outward badges of success: smart clothes, royal husband, loads of securidee etc give her confidence to be that strange construct 'Meghan Markle' (or Sussex...). I think she probably fears being just another mum at the school gates and having to be her actual self, whatever that might be!

Yes, sadly! 🙁