PR disasters thread 30

[BigWillyLittleTodger]

Flying through these threads at a rate of knots! A shiny new thread for yet more Sussex shenanigans!

Not excusing what Megan has done to the Queen and the whole firm but .....

Looks like Harry is out of African Parks!

https://x.com/sabirahlohn/status/2091643996514783465?s=46

One can only hope Scotty’s and Invictus will follow suit.

Wait, Charles? The guy who didn't invite them to stay at Highgrove ( or Balmoral) this summer? Who carefully gives H 45- min slots every once-in-a-blue-moon when H is over, and didn't bother to do even that when he was in the USA earlier this year?

Your weather sounds awful, I hope you are OK.

Had H not quit this anyway?

Thanks for the concern. I live in a hilly neighborhood so I'm generally safe but since my subway line floods frequently, I don't leave my neighborhood if possible when rain is predicted.

No - he remains on the board of Africa Parks until September 30th - a charity mired in accusations of violence/rape committed by the charity's park wardens

He quit Sentebale AIDS charity last year and is currentky being sued by them - case due to start in September

There was the petition in Australia that got tens of thousands of signatures (I think) that taxpayers wouldn’t fund security while HAM were here.
I would say most people here were indifferent to their visit. Very small crowds, that weird event she did with women that she spent about an hour at, and a bit of coverage. Still baffled as to the purpose of their trip here. We don’t need them.
It would be entertaining to see them try their pomposity here though. I can hear the tall poppy blades sharpening already.
Anyway I noticed that Netflix is heavily advertising the next season of The Gentlemen here and I saw that at least two thirds of the comments were variations of, if MM joins this show I’m cancelling Netflix.
So there is definitely a kind of backlash happening.

If you'd like to send some of that rain California's way, yeah, that would be nice. El Niño is just sending us heat.

I've seen video of water rushing down subway stairwells before.. Horrible!

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If the images on social media at the time are gen they flew commercial (probably BA)...

In any event private jet passengers and crew have to clear customs and immigration.

Of course he did.

Or, we know they brief the newspapers separately - Meghan read about this the same time we did - H has decided he wants to come home so has manifested.

I do not for one minute believe this is Meghan's choice - more likely it is a visa issue, but I do not think she wants this.

What are William and Kate thinking? Well, it’s not about olive branches

https://www.thetimes.com/article/e66f0d05-2cc9-4fb6-a53d-3b8f01e2464a?shareToken=e39668af32d0d3a393e31f36f0af0cde

Meghan does indeed need a visa. I'm sure they have enough money left for that, but have they left enough time to apply?

Lili is a British citizen by descent and under the new rules must already have used her British passport to enter the UK for the last trip.

But do they have the skills required for a visa? 🤔

Brits can't just turn up and do normal jobs, they have to turn up and do normal jobs that are on a list, that Australia wants them to do. Unless Australia takes very rich people in regardless of their skills.

People in PH circle have more than enough wealth to grease the wheels of any pressure of a sandwich generation - they have always had a staff and can buy services to do the work. There will be plenty of people who will become his ‘friends’ - he’s a ‘useful idiot’ and more of a social target than a terrorist one IMHO. There are loads of grifters who would be happy to bask in his tarnished royal glow. I wouldn’t even be surprised if PW dispatched a few of their previous mutual friends PHs way as a buffer to keep him entertained at a distance and even as intelligence sources.

Remembrance Sunday will be the the manoeuvre to watch - will he be at a village war memorial in the Cotswolds or will be rock up to The Cenotaph?

IMHO MM is not coming back. She is managing her businesses from international bases - the most revealing statement.

I can’t see how or why she has taken the risk of her DCs being habitually resident in the UK in the event of a divorce (does anyone know how long they would need to be here?) - but I can’t see here seeing the need to dip them in royal glitter to ensure her own relevance.

It is not necessary for her to announce she needs to be abroad at times to manage her business - it’s standard to travel for work so she is saying is permanently based elsewhere and will flit in and out of UK (unseen IMHO).

I am shocked she has taken this risk wrt divorce but maybe their marriage is rock solid and she has done the math in her own head of short pain long gain - for her - that the DCs burnishing in royal glow for a temporary period is worth the risk.

I just don’t understand why she won’t stay in the UK during that time. Is her ego that fragile - she is reported to have said she was “humiliated and sidelined” after her visit with KC3 only a few weeks ago.

Also the need to live apart from her DC to manage her collapsed jam business does tie up with the other rumour or acting project with Guy Richie based in UK - can’t be in 3 places at once.

I think that PH has serious MH issues exasperated by ANL add in the visa issue and she is returning the defective goods to a safe distance away with his family - he thinks it’s temporary but MM knows it isnt - just struggle that she would take the DC residency risk. But that’s her childhood role model to live apart from her mother and still retain a deep connection. These days with tech, travel and their cash - the kids probs won’t notice if they see her once a fortnight. What’s a reasonable regular commute from Cali to London?

If Eden and Vine really said that, then it's clear they make up complete nonsense, which is particularly horrifying given that some people think Eden and Vine are credible journalists on royal matters.

There is absolutely no indication that they have been given the armed, state-supplied security that Harry has been demanding. In fact, all evidence is that they haven't (e.g. prime minister specifically saying their security is a "private" affair as opposed to the standard "we do not comment on security issues").

As for charities, anyone can be chosen to be a patron of a charity - it's got nothing to do with being a working royal. They can be patrons of whichever charities are stupid enough to choose to have them, but those won't be royal patronages.

I personally believe this isn't the route they will choose, Harry will carry on with his veterans' charities, but I don't think they will try go for tons of charity work.

If Eden and Vine are calling Catherine "Kate", then that's another indication that they have no "sources" within royal circles.

Thanks for the share token.

Love the last paragraph:

“It’s often said that William was particularly incensed by the passage in Spare accusing him of flooring Harry, breaking his necklace in the process, but this is so obviously the one bit of the book (true or not) that William will have loved. It’s the part where he shows how he really feels about Harry and his new wife, and that was well before Megxit. It’s got a lot, lot worse since then.”

DD was watching one of the Harry Potter films last night, (Prisoner of Azkaban) where Hermione punches Malloy (whilst calling him a few ripe names like Weasel) and said “That felt good” to cheers from Harry and Ron.

The dog bowl and necklace was William’s Hermione moment. He should own it!

I would imagine both children are dual nationals. Meghan would need a spouse visa, but that shouldn't be a problem.

It's easy to get a short stay visa, especially for British citizens.

Residence is an entirely different matter, especially as they're in their 40s and have no jobs to speak of. Though they're rich, which always helps smooth the path.

If Eden and Vine really said that, then it's clear they make up complete nonsense, which is particularly horrifying given that some people think Eden and Vine are credible journalists on royal matters.

Exactly, and as has been pointed out, none of these 'experts' had a clue about the 'Great Return' and found out at the same time as we did.

They're in the business of clicks and reposts, hence the rage baiting over security and the possibility of Harry becoming a working royal again. They're hardly going to say they're making it up as they go along, are they?

A lot of hyperbole from the press isn't there. I wonder when it is going to occur to the general public that a large proportion of the so called feud is the press creating a narrative for clicks? When are people going to stop commenting on articles about the Sussexes that are deliberately inflammatory and stop giving the tabloids and social media hacks revenue?

I am not saying that William is in a forgiving mood but I really doubt that this latest Sussex stunt threw him that much. He knows who Harry is, he has always known, and he got Meghan's measure pretty quickly by all accounts. I believe William and Catherine are doing what maybe we should all be doing, keeping calm and carrying on.

Alison Pearson seems to think not having the attention on George's first day at Eton will threaten the monarchy. What rubbish, I'm sure Catherine and William will be only too pleased to have some of the spotlight taken off their children. It didn't matter how many charity visits Harry does, or how many Instagram posts Meghan creates, the monarchy is part of the establishment. It can't be disrupted by celebrity cries for attention. It's like saying Count Binface is a credible candidate for Prime Minister. (Although I'm being unfair to the Count he seems thoughtful with genuine points to make about politics).

A thousand year old institution is not threatened because the attention of the press and social media is on a minor royal. It's not threatened by a minor royal making visits to charities or other countries. The minor royal's title however might be threatened if he insists on interfering in politics.

Her DCs becoming habitually resident in the UK sets her up to sell herself as even more of a victim of UK (or International) law and the BRF if they divorce at some point in the future. Her superpower is motherhood but she can’t be a FT mom because her kids have to be in the UK and she is victimised there so cannot for her mental health live there. Many women with unreasonable exes and in laws would relate to elements of that given how many marriages end in divorce.

In actuality she would be replicating her own family model as it appears Doria was absent for large parts of her childhood. Whether her kids the treat M as M has treated her own father in the future remains to be seen.