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BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/07/2026 11:15

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Mylovelygreendress · 31/07/2026 07:05

Re the Scottish trip , how come other members of the RF, including the Wales family, can go on holiday and we rarely know about it or see photos yet every “ secret” trip by H and M is somehow leaked to the press ?

Thedom · 31/07/2026 07:05

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 31/07/2026 02:56

https://archive.is/jBzP6

They really are the Yorks V2, aren’t they? Always scrounging off some billionaire or other.

Their leaks and subsequent denials are so unbelieveable,,I don’t know why they even bother to do the faux indignation.

A spokesman for the Duke and Duchess said: 'This is not something we would comment on.' 😂😂😂😂.

But we really, really, really, REALLY think you should know where we were and that we were hosted by another random billionaire.

Thedom · 31/07/2026 07:09

Of course Meghan can’t help herself with the little nuggets of clues and cryptic messages, sitting on her hands waiting for someone to pick it up. She just wishes she could do large scale photo spreads in some fashion magazine of her visits to these estates.

HoldMyWine · 31/07/2026 07:14

Ah so they were in Scotland, bumming a freebie off yet another billionaire pal. AMW has taught them
well.

Dontevenlookatme · 31/07/2026 07:17

jeffgoldblum · 30/07/2026 23:30

I’m afraid that while I don’t care and don’t comment on the looks of other women, I’m afraid to say , no , I don’t agree, she looks fine , attractive I guess, but average she’s no raving beauty as far as I’m concerned, in Hollywood there are hundreds of starlets who may fit that bill .

I agree, Jeff. Again, not bothered about picking apart her looks other than the sheer vanity of (imho) unnecessary and costly tweakments, but Meghan was never more than cable tv pretty. She didn’t stand out in Suits amongst the many other pretty women.

I think her makeup can be very good (but also very bad) and I‘ve always said she’s photogenic, which is a huge asset.

As I said, it’s not important what she looks like and never was, except when she was spending tax payer’s money on herself.

Treylime · 31/07/2026 07:19

What's in it for this billionaire? I can sort of understand years ago giving them freebies, glamour of royalty and all that but these days it's well known that other rich people(Tyler Perry Elton John) have ditched them for being ungrateful freeloaders. There is no glamour attached to them these days.

Mylovelygreendress · 31/07/2026 07:25

Kirys · 31/07/2026 00:09

That looks like a nose job from those photos?

I think MM is very attractive and there are many pictures of her looking radiant - I never understood why she didn’t just come out with a skin care / makeup range from the start - that’s what authentically stands out for me as about the only thing that she gets right. But now her ‘inner beauty’ shines thru so that ship has sadly sailed for her.

What happened to poor old Daniel? Maybe he’s writing his memoir…..

Edited

I thought she fell out with Daniel although the reason escapes me at the moment ( need a cup of tea).

Dontevenlookatme · 31/07/2026 07:38

Kirys · 31/07/2026 00:09

That looks like a nose job from those photos?

I think MM is very attractive and there are many pictures of her looking radiant - I never understood why she didn’t just come out with a skin care / makeup range from the start - that’s what authentically stands out for me as about the only thing that she gets right. But now her ‘inner beauty’ shines thru so that ship has sadly sailed for her.

What happened to poor old Daniel? Maybe he’s writing his memoir…..

Edited

I don’t think Meghan’s skin is good enough for a skin care line, however I do agree she could have done well with a make up line. She could have used her calligraphy on the packaging - there might even have been room for a tiny coronet.

The trouble is, she plays to her fantasies, not her strengths; she isn’t good enough at the things she wants to be known for, and that makes her look inauthentic.

IcedPurple · 31/07/2026 07:46

Kirys · 31/07/2026 00:09

That looks like a nose job from those photos?

I think MM is very attractive and there are many pictures of her looking radiant - I never understood why she didn’t just come out with a skin care / makeup range from the start - that’s what authentically stands out for me as about the only thing that she gets right. But now her ‘inner beauty’ shines thru so that ship has sadly sailed for her.

What happened to poor old Daniel? Maybe he’s writing his memoir…..

Edited

- I never understood why she didn’t just come out with a skin care / makeup range from the start

It would definitely have been a better choice than the silly dated 'lifestyle' thing, but I don't think it would have been a success either. It would have run into many of the same problems as 'As Ever'. Poor promotion, inability to listen to experts, fuzzy brand image, and maybe most of all, lack of a real target demographic. Not to mention the competition in the 'celebrity beauty' business is massive, and she'd have to really stand out to be a success.

IcedPurple · 31/07/2026 07:47

HoldMyWine · 31/07/2026 07:14

Ah so they were in Scotland, bumming a freebie off yet another billionaire pal. AMW has taught them
well.

Was going to say the same. I instantly thought of Andrew and his grasping missus. Thankfully Harry has no official position to exploit.

Katrinawaves · 31/07/2026 07:48

ShamedBySiri · 30/07/2026 23:04

Just listened to this discussion between Kinsey Schofield and Jonathan Goldberg KC regarding the Sentabale/Sophie Chandauka case. Very interesting.
Highlights - JG has a hunch that the source of the funding for the case (remember SC put out a statement that Sentabale wasn't paying the costs) is a newspaper with a grudge!!! 👀
He talked about disclosure which can be demanded, with the prospect of incredibly juicy emails/texts etc, but then knocked it back with the possibility that Harry will just delete all the texts.

I sincerely hope SC doesn't settle (and if the source of the funding is as JG suspects they probably won't) but there will be huge pressure to settle and to be honest I don't feel overly optimistic about getting to see all the juicy details which SC surely has in her back pocket discussed in court.

He also mentioned that Judge Nicklin was the judge in the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard case when it was heard in the UK which I didn't know, not sure if that has been picked up on.

Andrew Nicol was the judge in the Depp/Heard case not Matthew Nicklin

JSMill · 31/07/2026 07:49

Mylovelygreendress · 31/07/2026 07:05

Re the Scottish trip , how come other members of the RF, including the Wales family, can go on holiday and we rarely know about it or see photos yet every “ secret” trip by H and M is somehow leaked to the press ?

Yup! This, to me, is solid proof they are trying to wangle their way back into the UK and look royal. The amount of leaking and planting they have been doing recently is exhausting.

IcedPurple · 31/07/2026 07:51

JSMill · 31/07/2026 07:49

Yup! This, to me, is solid proof they are trying to wangle their way back into the UK and look royal. The amount of leaking and planting they have been doing recently is exhausting.

I don't think there's ever been any question of them getting 'back in' but this sort of crap will make it even harder for them.

It again, also proves that they can travel around the whole country, not just England but Scotland too, in complete privacy. Unless they are the ones 'leaking'. And of course their entire trip was perfectly safe with no need for enhanced security.

So I'm not sure any of these 'leaks' amount to a PR 'win' for them at all.

CariadDarling · 31/07/2026 07:54

Thedom · 31/07/2026 07:09

Of course Meghan can’t help herself with the little nuggets of clues and cryptic messages, sitting on her hands waiting for someone to pick it up. She just wishes she could do large scale photo spreads in some fashion magazine of her visits to these estates.

She is nothing but predictable and the way she draws attention to the workings of her thought process is unfortunate.

Choux · 31/07/2026 08:01

from the DM article: But perhaps the aspect which would have most appealed to Harry is that, by last year, more than half of the 1,000 guests Tanera had hosted were from the Taigh Mor Foundation. It's a charity which strives to bolster the wellbeing of those serving in the armed forces or emergency services.

So Ian Wace is a billionaire who does veteran related charitable work. It’s also possibly not the first time they have visited. This 2019 article says HAM were rumoured to have stayed there. Besides many visitors being from the Taigh Mor Foundation, the island is also used as a wellness retreat for UHNWIs. By invitation only.
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/tiny-scottish-island-named-one-22634796

Tiny Scottish island named as one of UK's 'coolest' postcodes to move to in 2022

The Times have just unveiled their 12 coolest postcodes in the UK to move to in 2022, and the one Scottish entry on the list is very unexpected as it is a privately owned island

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/tiny-scottish-island-named-one-22634796

Mylovelygreendress · 31/07/2026 08:13

So do we think he might have been trying to persuade Ian Wace to stump up funding for Invictus 2027 ?

Kirys · 31/07/2026 08:15

Thedom · 31/07/2026 07:05

https://archive.is/jBzP6

They really are the Yorks V2, aren’t they? Always scrounging off some billionaire or other.

Their leaks and subsequent denials are so unbelieveable,,I don’t know why they even bother to do the faux indignation.

A spokesman for the Duke and Duchess said: 'This is not something we would comment on.' 😂😂😂😂.

But we really, really, really, REALLY think you should know where we were and that we were hosted by another random billionaire.

Interesting article. A recently divorced, single billionaire available……watch this space.

Morelovelyandtemperate · 31/07/2026 08:19

Thedom · 31/07/2026 07:05

https://archive.is/jBzP6

They really are the Yorks V2, aren’t they? Always scrounging off some billionaire or other.

Their leaks and subsequent denials are so unbelieveable,,I don’t know why they even bother to do the faux indignation.

A spokesman for the Duke and Duchess said: 'This is not something we would comment on.' 😂😂😂😂.

But we really, really, really, REALLY think you should know where we were and that we were hosted by another random billionaire.

BTL comments in the DM include:

  • Old photo, Harry has less hair than that
  • MM had to leak the story because no one commented on the scottish loch photo she posted
  • They always get free holidays from rich people - and comparisons with the Yorks.
Mylovelygreendress · 31/07/2026 08:27

Kirys · 31/07/2026 08:15

Interesting article. A recently divorced, single billionaire available……watch this space.

Nah , Ian Wace is a very savvy business man who , despite a terrible tragedy ( first wife and children killed) has quietly gone on to huge success.
Meghan has zero chance.

JSMill · 31/07/2026 08:28

@IcedPurpleyes you are absolutely right. They just don’t understand how to sit tight and play a long game. Like I said earlier, their PR people must be exhausted from having to constantly put stuff out there.
I do love the part where it says taking the freebie from this billionaire would have appealed to H because he donated to a foundation for emergency workers and veterans. As if H isn’t just a scrounger!

Morelovelyandtemperate · 31/07/2026 08:29

IcedPurple · 31/07/2026 07:46

- I never understood why she didn’t just come out with a skin care / makeup range from the start

It would definitely have been a better choice than the silly dated 'lifestyle' thing, but I don't think it would have been a success either. It would have run into many of the same problems as 'As Ever'. Poor promotion, inability to listen to experts, fuzzy brand image, and maybe most of all, lack of a real target demographic. Not to mention the competition in the 'celebrity beauty' business is massive, and she'd have to really stand out to be a success.

And she'd have to be honest.
"I'm 45, and those wrinkles are creeping in..!"
No way. She would never admit to any effects of age.

EssCarGo · 31/07/2026 08:44

Morelovelyandtemperate · 28/07/2026 17:59

I'm not surprised they haven't sold out yet.
€40k a year golf membership😳

To a monied American that is cheap as chips! Some memberships start at a million in the best clubs.

GoddammitPrincess · 31/07/2026 08:54

Mylovelygreendress · 31/07/2026 08:13

So do we think he might have been trying to persuade Ian Wace to stump up funding for Invictus 2027 ?

Of course! Didn’t think of that! Good call @Mylovelygreendress

And of course HAM leaked it!!

ShamedBySiri · 31/07/2026 08:54

Interesting article about the revival of Tanera Mor.
This isn’t a place where you go for a private luxury holiday.

Lots of volunteering in different roles and communal eating.

“When I arrive at lunchtime, the door opens to the astonishing sight and sound, on this tiny island, of 50 people eating and talking together on long communal tables; it’s a hive of sociable nourishment and the daily epicentre of Tanera life. There is no division between front and back of house: utilitarian spaces coexist with living spaces, all solid and beautifully built. It brings to mind William Morris’s adage, “Have nothing in your house that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful.” Here are construction workers, housekeeping staff, gardeners, ecologists, accountants, volunteers, mechanics and guests filling their plates – some in the next room playing pool, others sitting by the woodburner before they go back out to work. It’s impossible to tell who is who. It is alive.
Susanne Schlie is head chef. With a culinary philosophy shaped by the influential food scene in Copenhagen, where she lived and worked for many years, she is steering the menus towards nutritionally rich, simple dishes, using as many island-grown ingredients as possible.
She explains that meals used to be ferried around the island in a Land Rover. “Now everyone comes here to eat together – and it just works.”

I wonder if this is A&L’s introduction to charitable “turn up and do good” work for the future. Wonder what work Meghan rolled her sleeves up to do. 🤔

No doubt the Impact Officer could have given Harry tips for his role as CHIMPO at Better Up.

Interested to see Robert Irvine, son of Lucy Irvine is working there.

“Robin Irvine lived on Tanera as a teenager with his brother and mother, the Castaway writer Lucy Irvine. His grandfather, then his aunt and uncle, ran the Summer Isles Hotel on the mainland, now also part of the growing Tanera project. Irvine, who studied at Cambridge and has a PhD in social anthropology, is the project’s land and community manager and has a deep understanding of the island’s history and culture. He is erudite, passionate, but also pragmatic, and has no truck with trying simply to recreate the past. Instead he wants to build a viable future. “This place can’t be stuck in aspic,” he explains, stressing that this is not one fixed community but many, and that visitors have long been part of the picture.”

You have to be of a certain generation to remember the impact of Lucy Irvine and Castaway. We all read the book and Lucy achieved certain celebrity at the time, but not celebrity as we know it now obviously.
I also remember when she settled in Scotland and had her babies she complained the midwives had doubts about her suitability as a mother and her mental health. Good to know she simply trusted her instincts of living an alternative lifestyle and her son has done really well.

I like your thinking the pp who wonders whether Harry is looking for Invictus funds. I also wonder if Wace has a private jet handy for a flight from Glasgow.

For some reason I am seeing him as a Jonathan Wace type character curtesy of the JKR Strike book Running Grave.
Wonder if that’s where JKR got the surname and maybe some other thoughts about communal living 🤔😂
I do jest. From the article it all sounds wonderful and productive and healing. A great way to spend your billions.

https://portfolio.savills.com/lifestyle/tanera-mor-a-scottish-island-reborn/

Choux · 31/07/2026 09:26

You may actually be correct on JKR @ShamedBySiri. Ian’s second wife after his first wife died was Fiona Hardy an Australian writer of crime fiction and children’s fiction. There aren’t that many billionaires roaming round Scotland so a billionaire couple with a writer wife would quite likely cross paths with another billionaire writer who lives in Scotland. Perhaps JKR was invited to Tanera Mar.

Tanera Mar isn’t all charitable function and pitching in. This article says:Wace has stated that he did not apparently buy Tanera in 2017 with the philanthropic purpose and objectives he began to articulate publicly five years later in 2022. At one level the island remains a place for the wealthy, the rich and famous to be invited for short restorative stays. Who these people continues to be a well-kept secret but, of course, rumours abound about celebrities and members of the royal family being spotted boarding the speedboat from the Badentarbat jetty to the island. I return to the publicised charitable aims of the project below, but it needs reiterating that Tanera has been developed as a location to please the business elites and the wealthy of the world. This is made clear by the SIE ‘Operations and Guest Coordination lead’ who, in a Linked In post (June 2024) described the work of the team thus: ‘From wellness retreats and escapes for UHNWIs to offsite gatherings for global finance leaders our team creates space for unique transformative experiences in one of the worlds (sic) most remote and stunning locations’
https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2026/03/25/a-laird-for-our-times-questions-of-philanthropy-and-community-in-the-scottish-highlands/

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