PR disasters thread 26

[BigWillyLittleTodger]

Let the conversation continue……

Some of the stuff I've read on other sites is baffling. People seem to just make things up with absolutely no evidence and then, because it's been written online others believe it. Generally most of what is said about the royals is interpretation, I include what I post in that, because there is actually very little evidence of what they actually think and feel most of the time. But to say Meghan didn't post photos on her own Instagram, Catherine didn't do the Three Peaks, Harry is going to replace William as Heir, to name 3 things I've seen stated as facts elsewhere is just fascinating. None of them make logical sense or fit in with actual fact.

I don't read very often because it makes my head spin.

Is this the same south Korea that recently bid and won invinctus 2029 😂😂 I bet s. Korean government are thrilled at being labelled as russian bot type wronguns! Expect it has given IG board a bit of a wobble in case SK decides to withdraw.

That was my reasoning too however here I am with my morning cup of tea and it still makes no sense 🤷‍♀️

Exactly yes especially because some people are saying the althorp ones are manipulated or AI they are saying those specifically are not her photos she never posted them (on her own Instagram) so fastest way to get out of that accusation someone else posted them 😂

Its not even the batshit post that gets me its that once someone says it people run with it as fact so by the time you get to the bottom of the thread people are confidently telling everyone "facts" from further up with zero proof at all

Almost certain the Brooksbanks and HAMs came to some kind of cheap deal on the Portugal place in the (very misguided) belief that having the HAMs would attract a bevy of monied superstars buying at full price….

Also - and apols if an old link, I’m playing catch up!

“It’s never his fault”

www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/prince-harry-blew-family-reunion/?utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_content=app.dashsocial.com/woman-home/library/media/700975493&fbclid=IwVERFWATWjOBwZG9mBWZkaWQWULc-bIRraMmq6JgOKJejx45w-Glr72V4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDzE3Mzg0NzY0MjY3MDM3MAABHlEObimGq3ObYCcsjCFPknxGghrdWT6MAO5mCKZSUa9-UQAimokdz5kADY3b_aem_xHUNokKScGcQFKKLhNpfkw

But surely if M didn’t post those photos then The Office of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex (!) would issue a statement ? After all , they like “ the truth “ …..

Talking of fake news Nancy Sidley has posted this re the children’s clothes being on the merching site. I’m not sure that is the site she uses , it looks like a mock up to me, the boy’s shirt doesn’t seem to be the same one for a start. I don’t know where her site is but it’s worth a check.

Have the Koreans set up a fake merch site too 🤣 Is there no depths the Koreans won’t stoop to in their attempts to bring Meghan down .

I’ve heard that the Koreans have fake irons, which make your clothes look ironed and then as soon as a camera flashes ‘puff’ make all the wrinkles appear again like magic

I'm going to ignore the South Korea stuff as that seems a little tin hat territory. If H&M put that out themselves , one thing , rumours on the internet , another. (Although I do think H&M do clap back quickly regarding things which don't suit their narrative , less so when some of their "enthusiastic" fans post stuff )

It seems to me the JB's Costa Terra holiday photos are wading into influencer out of central casting territory like the "Thank you Disney for a wonderful time" promotion in return for freebies. Which is fine, if this is what they are - but I think most hugely rich people (especially those who value their privacy / security ) would gladly pay their own way and do these visits privately. Or be like George Clooney & don't pretend ( the Nespresso advertisements ) . George Clooney comes across as likeable though.

Many famous people do things purely for the money. I remember reading about an interview with Michael Caine. He was asked why , when he had done many really good films did he appear in whatever rubbish film it was. I paraphrase - he said something like "Oh the film was dreadful , but the kitchen it bought me was lovely " . 😁I rather admired him for that.

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And the men would constantly have to hide their nipples.

It seems to me the JB's Costa Terra holiday photos are wading into influencer out of central casting territory like the "Thank you Disney for a wonderful time" promotion in return for freebies. Which is fine, if this is what they are - but I think most hugely rich people (especially those who value their privacy / security ) would gladly pay their own way and do these visits privately.

Yep, I was thinking the same thing about that People Mag piece, they quoted the complex more than once. Very much felt like a promotion in lieu of a free holiday.

Not a fan of promotional/ad type posts and articles that are not flagged as such. Should be clear when something is a paid promotion or Ad.

Mark Dolan now saying KC has invited HAM and hamlets to Balmoral for the summer 🤔

On the security front I came across this on reddit from some FOI info in Canada.

https://archive.is/v9JyO

You can see why they're so keen to get ipp status from the costs of two ja7mts to Canada.

Why such high security for this waster ?

To quote ms winfrey WHAAAAT?

Urgh why would he do that we will have loads of we need security will they come wont they come will we see photos on and on jeeze I might just turn off the Internet and not leave the house

Wow, thank you.

Glad this is being exposed, the Canadian government tried to get out of releasing the information. Can a British journalist request similar info under FOI for Harry since he announced he was leaving the RF. This didn’t even include the base salaries of the protective police.

The cost to protect Prince Harry and, later, his wife accounted for around 10 per cent of the over $5.2 million spent during that period to provide security to more than 100 internationally protected persons who visited Canada.
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The document released by the RCMP lists $105,955 in spending for Prince Harry's security in 2016/17 followed by $364,859 in 2017/18. That tapered off to $866 in 2018/19 and $904 in 2019/20. On a separate line, expenses of $56,405 for 2019/20 appear on the list under the "Duke and Duchess of Sussex."
A CBC News tally of the spending does not include another line item of $56,405 for the same year under "The Duke and Duchess of Sussex" which appears to be a duplicate — even though it is included in the RCMP's total spending of $5.2 million.
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According to the Court Circular, which outlines public activities of members of the Royal Family, Prince Harry had one public visit to Canada during 2017 and 2018 — a weeklong trip to attend events in Toronto. The events included the Invictus Games — which Harry founded — a WE Day celebration and a reception for young people who received Duke of Edinburgh gold awards.
In July 2016 Prince Harry met Markle, who had a role in the television drama Suits that was filming in Toronto. Around that period, the pair were occasionally spotted by paparazzi in Toronto. They were engaged in November 2017 and married in 2018.
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The list also includes RCMP expenses of $10,586 for the Duchess of Sussex in 2018/19. <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/v9JyO/chatelaine.com/living/meghan-markle-jessica-mulroney-toronto/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">News reports in August 2018 revealed that she jetted to Toronto to spend three days with her friend Jessica Mulroney.

@BasiliskStare Michael Caine's film was the truly awful Jaws 4, but it bought his mother's house, which was apparently not awful at all 🤣

It sounds like another HAM manifestation to me - we have seen this multiple times before when they leak their wants to a friendly journalist who puts it out there in the hope it will materialise. Just like for example:

• Presenting an Oscar (had to hastily arrange the 2 day Moroccan tour to cover the £90,000 she'd spent on that Dior abomination?)
• Obama 60th party - not invited
• Meghan's 40th Party - idea dropped as A listers declined and replaced with that mocking tea video
• 40x40 - flopped and never spoken of again
• Christmas with the royals at Sandringham/Earl Spencer at Althorp
• Met Gala
• Face of Dior
• A list actress - I read the movie cameo she did recently was so bad it wont be in the movie
• Bezos wedding
• Duke of Westminster wedding
• Peter Phillips' wedding
• Trooping the Colour
• Lunch with Michelle Obama - flatly denied by Michelle Obama
• Oscars after parties - not invited even by Vanity Fair/Elton John
• Meghan to get Dianne Feinstein's Senate seat
• Meghan at the Coronation (she even added it to her IMDB page as a "forthcoming appearance in a TV special 😂" ... the Queen's funeral is still on her IMDB)

etc etc

Meghan hated Balmoral on the one time she went in 2018. She likes luxury holidays in exclusive resorts and has no interest in fishing and hiking in rainy Scotland. By all accounts she complained endlessly to staff while she was there. They skipped it in 2019 claiming Archie was "too young" to travel to Scotland although managed to fly private jet to the south of France to stay with Elton John and meet David Sherborne at the same time. They refused to return for the Queen's last summer and also refused visit a couple of days before the Queen died when they were only a few hours away.

I would think that like most events the schedule for Balmoral is planned months in advance to coordinate family member visits and the dignitaries that the King has to entertain.

The fact that they are trying to manifest a holiday in Scotland a couple of weeks after returning to Montecito from a holiday in Portugal shows how empty their diary is, and their desperation to present a façade that they have returned to the royal family.

Thank you ! I knew I had the gist of it , but clearly not the actual facts. Anyway - he was at leat honest about why he did it.

I don't believe Harrybor Meghan would want to go to Balmoral even if they were invited. Harry has never liked it there and she apparently hated it.

Desperate times now though. They need the royal adjancy

yeah it was Jaws 4 @BasiliskStare & he said he had no regrets because he'd seen the house it bought his mam 😂Think he got something crazy like $1,000,000 for a weeks work! 😎

It’s not as bad as swarm ! ( which he did to pay off a swimming pool) “beeeesss , bees 🐝 …killer beess “ 😁

I think Harry would love a trip to Balmoral, to cement his “back in the family” image but I’m not so sure he’ll get an invite. I did hear the Marc Dolan show which claimed they would be invited for a two day trip. The journalist making the claim presented a convincing argument of Charles wanting to spend more time with his son and grandchildren and well, Harry wanting to get his feet back under the table as well as showing it all to A & L. Still I am very doubtful.

I do believe Balmoral was the late Queens most private and beloved home. It will be stuffed full of her special belongings still. I very much doubt the RF will want Madam snooping around, camera at the ready, exploiting the Queen’s beloved memory. She literally would have taken a photo of the Queen in her deathbed if she could have. And I think among all the despicable activities they have got up to, their behaviour on the day of The Queen’s death and during the subsequent period up to her funeral and on the day is the most unforgivable.

And if they did go - think about it. Charles and Camilla stay at Birkhall. I will eat my straw sun complete with decorative shell band if they are invited to stay at Birkhall. There’s another cottage, I’ve forgotten the name which the Wales family like to use and William will veto that being offered. There may be other suitable cottages/ houses otherwise H&M will likely be rattling around in the big house all in their own. Because NO ONE else will want to stay when they are there. I would think the Phillips and other cousins fix dates to coincide with the Wales’s so that all the cousins from both generations get to spend time together and have a lovely time. So NONE of them will be present at the same time as H&M. Don’t forget it’s not long since the big fat NO INVITE to Peter Phillips’ wedding. A one hour tea with the King won’t miraculously translate into everyone’s invited!

Still I suppose Charles could kill two birds with one stone and get unwelcome guests all dealt with in one hit. He could invite them to coincide with Andy Burnham’s visit. What fun! 😉😂