Here we go … Andrew to leave Royal Lodge and lose title

[Flixon]

Headlined in The Times just now …. About bloody time …

Educational thread reading here from wise English women

That bit is unclear. Probably because they have to be aware that legally he hasn't been convicted of anything. It's fairly strong disapproval though.

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Brilliant.

Did Princess Anne and Prince Edward decide that their children would not be known as Prince or Princess or is it because Anne is female and Edward was the youngest? Because surely if Beatrice and Eugenie are 'Princesses, why are the other 'children'?

The fawning over Charles is equally embarrassing - Charles was actively welcoming Andrew back into the fold until very recently. People have bloody short memories 🙄

I don’t think they’re easily shocked.

It was their choice

About time but I wish Virginia was still here to see it. Brave lady RIP.

To me it reads the exact opposite. Andrew claims he's innocent. Whatever, he's still a goner, and more importantly, we're sorry for the victims of abuse, we're not sorry for him.

I think they hoped that it would all blow over, and Charles praying with the Pope would distract us. It didn’t. Think this has been done reluctantly. They’ve always been behind the public mood. Also I think the revelations so far are the tip of the iceberg, and they need to pre-empt future revelations.

Now the king needs to address the nation
and his brother needs to answer questions by law enforcement on his role in any trafficking and the sexual assault of Virginia Guiffre.

Andrew Lownie said on some news programme there are more books by victims of Epstein due out in the coming months. He also said on the BBC this evening that there are more allegations to come soon.

I think any decent human being would be shocked by his behaviour.

Is Wood Farm the house that Prince Philip and Penny Knatchbull used to use?

They have known what he was like for decades. They took no action.

The Andrew formerly known as Prince

Formely known as Prince, forever known as Nonce

I agree - I suspect lawyers went over that statement and that sentence is there to show that he (Andrew) is not admitting any wrongdoing.

However to follow it immediately with the sentence about victims of abuse is as close to an admission that the King believes that there have been victims of abuse despite Andrew’s denials.

It’s an extraordinary statement.

And yes let's do this for Harry too.

Anne's children weren't entitled to titles as she is female. Edward's children are technically a HRH Prince and Princess, but their parents chose for them not to use the titles and just be styled as the son and daughter of a peer.

I think Beatrice and Eugenie's princess titles seem really silly now. Charles should really issue LP's saying that only direct line grandchildren should have royal titles.

It is 100% nothing to do with doing the right thing! The royals have shown that time and time again - it’s desperate damage limitation 🤬

Anne's children, because they descended through a female line didn't get Prince or Princess. Edward and Sophie decided that using the titles would be decided by their children when they reached 18. So far they aren't using them.

Edward decided his weren't going to be known as Prince and Princess(they can still be but he didn't want them to be), and it seems to have helped them live a relatively normal life. Louise was working in a garden centre.

Princess Anne's wouldn't be unless Mark Philips accepted a title and he refused.

Why? Is he suspected of sexually assaulting trafficked minors?