Mette-Marit’s son arrested for rape

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Marius Borg Hoiby, stepson to Crown Princess of Norway, has been arrested on suspicion of rape.

news.sky.com/story/amp/marius-borg-hoiby-eldest-son-of-norways-crown-princess-mette-marit-arrested-over-rape-13256564

She was basically passed around a violent drug gang and was also forced to escape domestic violence in her underwear while being chased by her "bf" wielding a knife.

That sounds horrific.

Yes, it sounds like she was groomed and trafficked. The Epstein connection surprised people because she didn’t need to be friends with him at all, nor feel any social obligation toward him, once in the royal family. I suppose he groomed her too - but what the heck was she thinking? This was 2011-14, when his conviction was known. Did no-one warn her, advise her?

Meanwhile, her son had already started going off the rails. In fact I recall her mentioning him to Epstein in an email. Something about wallpaper design.

King Haakon met government ministers with his daughter, the Crown Princess, today, so presumably she will be taking a greater role.

It will be interesting to see if that is just over this period while Mette-Marit recovers her health, or longer-term.

Yes - I think Ingrid Alexandra will have to take a bigger role. It's not clear how much Mette Marit will be able to do - the average survival time for a lung transplant is only around 5 years.

I think it was known for a while that Harald didn't have long as Ingrid Alexandra returned from University in Australia suddenly in May/June before the end of term. But a lot of pressure for her at 22.

I think Ingrid Alexandra’s chances of finishing her university plans will be out of the window.

Queen Sonja is 89. Princess Astrid is 94 and very frail. Mette-Marit is still in recovery from her transplant, and her health is unlikely to be 100% even when she is recovered from the surgery.

There’s going to be a lot on Haakon and Ingrid Alexandra. I wonder if they may even have to roll out Sverre Magnus occasionally for engagements, even though, with the way they do things in Norway, he’s not a member of the Royal House just the royal family.

Hopefully that won't be the case. Haakon and Harald became Crown Prince at a younger age and were still able to go to university. In Harald's case, it was just him and his father as his mother was dead. Did his sisters take on official duties?

I felt for Ingrid yesterday, having to put on a game face, at such a young age. She’s had a lot to deal with this year.

Epstein is widely said to have kept records and even recordings, The AutumnCrow so it may be he used them to keep a hold over her, but as you say that doesn't explain why she associated with him in the first place, even after his conviction

Echoes of too many of our own RF ...

His sister Astrid basically filled the Queen/Most senior lady role for her grandfather and father after her mother’s death. She did that until Harald married Sonja and she built up to be more prominent, but astrid was still involved.

His other sister moved to Brazil after her wedding.

This.

Mette-Marit's background wasn't originally materially disadvantaged: her family were middle class, but her father was an alcoholic which was upsetting for her.

As an adult she became involved with drugs and her ex (Marius's father) was a convicted criminal. After they split she raised Marius as a single mother, working as a waitress.

That's terrible. I googled and could find articles about her being chased with a knife by her ex, I didn't know about the DV.

However, I couldn't find articles saying this : 'She was basically passed around a violent drug gang'- do you have a source?

'The Epstein connection surprised people because she didn’t need to be friends with him at all, nor feel any social obligation toward him, once in the royal family.'

• that was Epstein's modus operandi though: befriending people who were wealthy and influential, and able to choose their own friends, but foolish enough to socialise with him (obviously many of the men who mixed with him were also motivated by a desire to abuse young girls)

Definitely.

There seem to be a lot of strange coincidences of people who ended up in the orbit of European royalty turned out to have met Epstein (although some of them sound innocuous)

UK - AMW & Fergie - they were very low hanging fruit as they would do practically anything for cash and enjoyed the connection - even invited Epstein and Harvey Weinstein to Beatrice's 18th birthday ball.

Norway - Mette Marit - a girl who was forced to work her way through A levels and had found herself almost a professional drug gang gf - suddenly gets an introduction to Crown Prince Haakon and now finds herself Queen.

Sweden - Princess Sofia - as a young girl from a small, depressed Northern town (population 7,000) as a 20/21 year old gets a modelling assignment in NYC and introduced to Epstein at a dinner ... subsequently meets a Swedish prince at a club in another small town (population 7,000) hundreds of miles from where they both live ....

Denmark - Epstein invites (then) Crown Prince Fredrik to dinner but it is not clear that he ever went

It's almost like someone (Epstein?) was attempting to position people in positions close to the centre of European royalty and influence. Interesting that it was most often the #2 rather than the actual King/Queen ....

I wonder if anyone has looked at Presidents?

I don’t really understand, @Lunde - are you suggesting that Mette-Marit knew Epstein prior to her relationship with Haakon? I’m pretty sure that’s not the case.

Metre-Marit’s connection to Epstein was after she married Haakon.

And AMW and SF met him through Ghislaine Maxwell, she was pretty prominent on the London social circuits before she met Epstein due to her father.

It seems Epstein appealed to rich men who either just wanted to be even richer or participate in the abuse of young women with no censure. However, MM doesn't seem to have fallen into either of these categories so it's a mystery.

I don't know if there is any real connection with Sofia of Sweden either, like Frederik of Denmark it may be that she is just mentioned in the files but never actually met Epstein. I haven't looked into it in great detail though, I'll admit

Epstein dealt in connections and kompromat. MM could fit into either category.

Sofia/Frederik may have just been exploratory for their connections, that never went any further.

(I also haven't looked in detail.)

kompromat

good word

Sofia was introduced to Epstein by a really prominent Swedish woman who was big on networks and introducing people (especially women) to people who could help them. Sofia was in America trying to become an actress at the time. She was invited to spend more time with him in the Caribbean and declined.

From what I read Barbro Ehnbom, the woman who introduced Sofia to Epstein, was someone who was very highly rated in Sweden (in particular for her push in trying to get women into male dominated spaces) and it’s totally understandable that Sofia would have trusted her to make introductions to connected people.

It was 5/6 years before she even met Carl-Philip and there was nothing to suggest she’d had any contact with Epstein after being introduced to him (and then seeing him at a film premiere at one other point).

Ehnbom was dropped by a lot of her funders and the likes in the Epstein investigation as she had stayed in touch with him after he was convicted.

I see that Harald's funeral will be held next Wednesday so I wonder if Marius will attend? MM has kept a fairly low profile since becoming queen but I assume she will be at the funeral.

ETA I've just seen photos of Harald's coffin arriving at the palace and the entire family apart from the shaman is there, including Marius. So I'm pretty sure he'll be at the funeral too.

"The entire family apart from the shaman" is not a sentence I ever expected to write about a royal family!

Wait, Marius isn't just there - he's one of the pallbearers!

The "Shaman" is in hospital - he had a kidney transplant a few days before King Harald died

I'm pretty sure MM is still on sick leave from her lung transplant a couple of months ago. She made some private visits to the hospital but I'm unsure whether she is up to a long state occasion.