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Without Sin Mon - Thurs 9pm ITV NO SPOILERS

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Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 20:32

We ar being treated. 2 new dramas

but in the same day and time - sort it out bbc and itv !!!

Without Sin (ITVX) is a heavyweight thriller cut from the same cloth as Happy Valley (https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/happy-valley) and Save Me, so fans of deep-rooted trauma and grief rejoice, if that’s the sort of thing you do.

Either way, this Nottingham-based four-parter is a very strong entry to the genre, taut and so
lid and compelling, and it does not outstay its welcome.

The ever watchable Vicky McClure (https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/jan/15/vicky-mcclure-line-of-duty-started-with-nothing) stars as Stella, a cabby grieving for her teenage daughter Maisy, who was murdered several years earlier.

As you might expect, Stella’s life has been utterly transformed by the tragedy. She has split up with her husband, Paul (Sherwood’s Perry Fitzpatrick), who is in a new relationship and who has been able to at least offer the illusion of moving forward.

She has cut herself off from her social life, smokes too much weed, and gave up the office job she loved to spend long nights driving around the city dealing with drunken and difficult customers.

She is in stasis, unable to do much more than simply get through the hours.

Fellow This Is England alumnus Johnny Harris plays Charles Stone, a drug dealer who grew up on the same estate as Stella, who became the muscle for a local gang, and who is now in prison for Maisy’s murder.

Charles is hard to read and prone to violent outbursts. He requests to be part of a restorative justice programme, in which a mediator reaches out to Stella and Paul for a meeting, with the idea that Charles will atone for his sins and that somewher
e, somehow, Stella and Paul may get the answers they need to process what has happened to their family.

It does not play out like that. The initial meeting in prison is the spark for a thickly knotted conspiracy of sorts that slowly unravels into a dense mystery, in which nobody can be taken at their word.

It does an excellent job of keeping you guessing as to everyone’s motives and levels of guilt. There is a mess of half-truths to untangle, among family, friends, organised criminals, small-time crooks, lost kids and hopeless adults.

Everyone is hiding something, and it’s all just waiting to come out of the shadows.

The title points towards the idea that nobody is entirely innocent. When it comes to the drug trade, Without Sin makes its point about middle-class hypocrisy very well, without laying it on too thick.

It has a strong grasp of the politics of small working-class communities, in which no secret lasts for long, because someone always knows someone who’s been talking about it.

It also hints at complicated feelings around social mobility. Stella is from the estate, but she and Paul lived in a big, fancy house, and once drove a Range Rover.

Some of the characters have a foot in each world, and it isn’t always comfortable for them. These are small details, but they give it a richness beyond the traditional whodunnit-type structure that it hangs on.

When it comes to the mystery of Maisy, it twists and turns. In Nottingham (https://www.theguardian.com/uk/nottingham), Stella becomes obsessed with finding out the truth of what happened to her daughter, while in prison,

Charles is dealing with his psychological issues, as well as the politics of the criminal underworld and even the politics of his own cell.

Each of the four episodes finishes on a proper cliffhanger, and by the time it all comes out in the wash in the finale, there have been more than enough dead ends and red herrings to keep us hooked.

It just about avoids the occasional ITV drama curse of having a run of solid episodes then throwing it all away on an implausible, far-fetched ending.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 20:35

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So1invictus · 11/05/2023 20:37

Thank you Blondes. Like the look of this one!

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 20:38

4 part drama. On all week. Mon to thur

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Xmasbaby11 · 11/05/2023 20:39

Hasn’t this been on already? I’ve watched it.

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/05/2023 20:40

Thanks once again Blondes

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 21:01

Xmasbaby11 · 11/05/2023 20:39

Hasn’t this been on already? I’ve watched it.

Oh. I don't know

Thought it was new. Didn't say repeat

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SgtCatherineCawood · 11/05/2023 21:02

Xmasbaby11 · 11/05/2023 20:39

Hasn’t this been on already? I’ve watched it.

Yes I thought it sounded familiar! Originally aired in November according to google

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 21:05

Oh bugger

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Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 21:05

Tho sure I haven't seen or done a thread on it

Will go and look

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SgtCatherineCawood · 11/05/2023 21:07

I am relieved in a way as I can't keep up with all this new stuff 🤣

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 21:08

Ah. It's been shown on ITVX in dec

But not itv

So I haven't seen it

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Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 21:09

www.radiotimes.com/tv/drama/without-sin-release-date-itvx/

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AnyFucker · 11/05/2023 21:14

Already binged it < runs >

lazymum99 · 11/05/2023 21:16

Already seen this. It is well worth watching. It was on ITVX

SgtCatherineCawood · 11/05/2023 21:30

Actually I don't know if I've seen it or not 🫣

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 21:32

@AnyFucker @lazymum99

you may come back thur at 10pm 😂

@SgtCatherineCawood how can you not know

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SgtCatherineCawood · 11/05/2023 21:35

@Blondeshavemorefun because it sounded familiar but when I've thought about it I couldn't tell you anything about it! And November isn't THAT long ago for me to have completely forgotten 🤷🏻‍♀️

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 21:42

Maybe once watching on Monday @SgtCatherineCawood it will come back to memory

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SgtCatherineCawood · 11/05/2023 21:56

Well we are currently watching Redemption that was on in March so it might be a bit longer than that 🤣

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 21:57

Now I've seen that 😂

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Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 21:58

SgtCatherineCawood · 11/05/2023 21:56

Well we are currently watching Redemption that was on in March so it might be a bit longer than that 🤣

I have a thread on that

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SgtCatherineCawood · 11/05/2023 21:59

Oh I was looking to see if I was on one and couldn't find one! When I watch things late I read the thread up to the point I've watched 🤣

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 22:08

SgtCatherineCawood · 11/05/2023 21:59

Oh I was looking to see if I was on one and couldn't find one! When I watch things late I read the thread up to the point I've watched 🤣

www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/4761890-redemption-fri-itv-9pm-tv-pace-no-spoilers?reply=125629565

Shameful

I even tagged you in it

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SgtCatherineCawood · 11/05/2023 22:09

Haha thanks I've been searching for it! I wonder if I unwatched it when I didn't know if I'd ever watch it 😳

MyEyesAreBleeding · 12/05/2023 02:02

Just started episode 3 on this. Enjoying it so far. I love a good shitty itv BBC drama.