EastEnders: the SPOILERS thread!

[Southeastdweller]

Welcome to the EastEnders spoilers thread, where we post and talk about any EE spoilers we've read about, including those in early release episodes on iPlayer.

Link below to watch episodes on BBC iPlayer - these are usually dropped at 6am on broadcast days - and you can read brief synopses of upcoming episodes:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m86d

So we want :
Jumpers back
Johnny Sausage gone
Ravi- jury is out
The Twins - gone don't care how just Make It So
Gemma and Josie to Do One
Gray- his death cannot come quick enough
Not keen on Sean Slater coming back
Lovely Clive better stay lovely . He was even civil with Max which shows he's a good'un

I am warming to Creepy Craig (IKR!!) it's the frog-in-boiling-water theory

I thought you meant Bert and Ernie gone at first!
Yes, I’d like the other twins gone too.
I want Ravi to stay. I want Linda to stay and be happy with lovely new Clive. Johnny can go. Not bothered either way about Gray. Sean Slater can come back.
Creepy Craig can stay but surely Jack will find out he’s been suspended then spot him hanging around the Square?
Gemma and Nic’s mum can come back. Josie was pointless.

We haven't seen them for ages but obviously that's a bonus . Same can't be said for Oscar .

70s agree with all of that (except I think most of us do want Ravi gone)
And what do you mean you are warming to creepy Craig, he’s awful!😮

And yes where’s Oscar. We need more Oscar.

Jasmine and Josh are in the photos for Zoe's funeral so they're hovering about somewhere.
Oscar might come back to support them , they'll both need him ( then they can both naff right off, Oscar will get over it with someone else)
, Craig is being so supportive to Amy , I'm trying to work out his motives. If he isn't after her , then what does he want . Does he have a good side ?

I'd forgotten he was still on the show! Please x100 take Callum and Lexi. I can't imagine the Mitchells would allow Lexi to go unfortunately (although they pay very little attention to her and I still think it's completely bizarre she is living with her former step-dad and his new boyfriend when she has so many grandparents on the square)

@70isaLimitNotaTarget 😆
Craig clearly does not have much in the way of a good side. He withheld evidence, had a relationship with another officer and has been suspended from police duties. But he hasn't told her that, he told her he resigned from the case (as if!). So now he is creeping around 'supporting her'. What do you think he wants!😆

I’m really missing Oscar, the thing with the twins seemed to annoy him as much as it did us

I want Stacy back

Ravi today even made me a bit teary eyed. It’s sad that Priya wasn’t feeling it though.
Strange episode , lots of bits and pieces.

There is no doubt now which way the storyline is heading. He is a classic manipulator, groomer.
I do feel for Ravi but I definitely wouldn’t take him back after that breakdown, they’re lucky to be alive.
I think EE is playing it out wrong, no family counselling or involvement in his treatment. Nah. He’s too volatile.

I'm hoping Amy has savvy and sense on her side but she's not in a good place at the moment ( Dee in hospital, Denzil copped off with her friend Avani .Were Denzil and Amy getting back together?. Her dad being distant and useless rather than just useless ) along with the attack on Joel . But I am hoping she can see through Craig she's got steel in her backbone .
Phil will tell her she's got Mitchell blood and she's Roxy's daughter don't forget that .
She's also got a history of self harm , I'm wondering if this whole Joel incident will send her backwards .

Ravi must have BPD or bi polar or something that hasn’t been diagnosed properly. He was really trying today to make Priya see how much he loved her , but she is ( understandably) cautious and wary. As most people would be. She only fell into Max’s arms because of him rejecting her on the wedding day after sleeping with her. He made me teary because he seemed so sincere, but we know it’s not really him is it. He blows hot and cold. Maybe this is why he leaves or is the gun man.
Cindy believing Max’s cock and bull story .. as if. She is seriously deluded or playing him the long game !

Amy seems to have no sense at all unfortunately.

As for Craig's speech about Joel 'deserving it', even though he is telling Amy what she wants to hear you would think she'd question a cop saying that. Although then again, her dad is cop of the year Jack😆

I agree there is no way Priya should take Ravi back, and I find it hard to believe either Avani or Nugget would want him back either. Particularly Nugget. The whole storyline has been played out so badly.

Amy did say that she and Denzel were not together, but Avani 'shouldn't have done it anyway'.

I wonder if Amy is going to be one of those who was a good child actor and doesn't transition to good adult actor. There are a couple of those on Corrie (one has been axed but one is still there).

It’s easy to forget how naive we were at 17. She has had it hard, her DM dead, her Father is impatient and busy, a father figure pervert has an easy in. I feel sorry for her. Hoping for her inner Roxy to fight back.
I myself dated a much older man when I was 18. Still gives me the odd nightmare.
Fathers can be a bit shit at spotting signs, Denise would be all over the situation if she was out of hospital.

I agree. At 17 you think you know everything so it’s an age when you really need invested adults around you. I worked weekends in a high street store at that age with a lot of 16-17 yr old girls and there were male dept managers aged 30+ who used to take us out to pubs after work, date some of the girls etc. Looking back I’m horrified but at the time it all seemed completely normal.

I wondered this week if Amy would relapse with the self harm, i noticed the pinging of the elastic band with is a coping/distraction thing isn’t it?

Yes it's true she is very young, and Jack is useless. Denise would never allow this to happen.

The whole thing with Craig is mystifying, but now he's lied about his suspension it does start to make me think he's Up To No Good, and yet another predatory man for some poor girl to deal with. The teens in EE really have a lot to deal with. Maybe Joel will save her and redeem himself, or maybe Amy will bash Craig with a hammer now that's her new thing? I have no idea where it's going.

I can’t understand Vicky being so defensive about Joel towards Amy. She has a short memory. He is only living locally by make threats of a false allegation. The guilt for sleeping with Zach is clouding her judgement. I hope they find out why he got to stay in the square. I don’t believe that he has changed his old behaviour.

Why did Barney say that he hit Joel ?
was that resolved and I didn’t notice ?

Whats become of Ian ? Left in limbo a bit now.

Barney never said he hit Joel did he? He just stood their gormlessly with the hammer and we were supposed to think he had?

I guess they are trying to write Ian out of the ridiculous hole they've written him into😆

I think Joel has changed for the better. Unlikely in real life there would such a quick turnaround but in soap world these things happen and the actor is doing a good job his character has changed.

I still think Craig is a relative of Amy’s.

I was looking forward to his return (Joel) but since he came back he just mopes about .He was much more arrogant and lippy before but now he's just 'meh'. Maybe he's waiting to get back at them ? I don't think he's changed . Maybe grown up a bit but not matured. Unlike Tommy who is a much more settled ,rounded teen and seems to have turned his life about (and suits his new hair) .Joel is just moping about "why do they all hate me" except he never asks them .
He could totter off to wherever and I wouldn't miss him.

If there's going to be a massive exodus ( Ravi, Linda,Sausage,Zoe) that we know about and those that are hopeful escapees ( Gray,Joshie'n'Jazzie) there will be no one lef5 😲

I definitely think he’ll revert to form and become bad. Leopard and its spots. Or maybe he’ll be fatally attacked?

I liked the Kat and Kim dialogue today, outside the pub, lovely and Kim and Denise in hospital, caring Kim.

Can’t get worked up about Cindy’s hen do and Max Priya though did notice when Ravi spoke to her in the chair in the gym, you could definitely see a rounded bump. Interesting top shot of her on toilet too.