MAFS THREAD 16. We go into these final rows (and maybe some vows) with our narky-cysts, frozen faces, John's fanclub and flappy jeans with free titties. It's the final goodbye, until the next time. Please collect your Blue Peter badge at the end

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At the end of the thread, just outside of Walsall.

I guess she’s now considering herself some kind of celeb which makes it worth the price tag, with it having been worn on the telly and all.

I don't think he's ever called her names. I've changed my opinion of him. He's always tried to argue reasonably and the thing he hates about her is the way she screams and swears all the time.

Did you see Luke drinking wine from the glass cup he drinks the coffee from?

PolPot definitely has issues (not that we don't know this). I was thinking about this and generally she starts fairly reasonably (although she is sooooooooooooooooo whiny) but as soon as the person she is in discussion with (generally Shitlid) doesn't agree with her, she loses the plot completely. We saw this at the girls retreat too with Hannah. It is like the red mist descends and she cannot tolerate any disagreement with her perspective.

I wonder if cuddly mummy PolPot could never say no and has always indulged her and she has ended up incapable of hearing anyone disagree. I'm wondering what she must be like to work with 😵.

I think the problem with Polly is she's trying to get him to see something or agree something and he's not going to. He doesn't like her that much, he's told her he's not going to give her the things she wants but she won't stop trying as she likes him and doesn't want to let it go.

I thought ShitLid's posture on the sofa where he was ignoring Polly, not speaking, not even looking at her was very hurtful. I get the sense that she starts off reasonably and he gives her nothing or denies what she says and she then gets frustrated and loses her temper. I suspect he has been edited to remove some of his worse traits.

Polly spoke her reasons for not renewing her vows in a really dignified way and then immediately started shouting. This may have been edited. If only she had stopped at that point. She might have regained some credibility.

In the end SL should have left in week 2/3 and spared her.

I know this sounds like a defence of Polly but I'm trying to understand her reactions. Her behaviour towards Hannah in collusion with Holluh was disgraceful. And the throwing wine is unacceptable. She needs support in managing her emotions.

I'm hanging on by the skin of my teeth... if Hannah shows up with Ryan, continues to not give a shit what anyone thinks and makes Holly's head explode the last week or so's torture will be worth it.

Yup. She forced him to act affectionate, then was furious that he didn't mean it. Well..... duh.....

I thought she looked very different in her vows, but I put it down to the red lippie - perhaps there was some surgical assistance in the mix too, though!

Got to say I thought she looked better in the pic Gaston made the (inaccurate, imho) 'bloated' comment about than she does now, though. Lip fillers are the pits and it's been so depressing seeing all the slug-like lips this season! (Even more depressing that some men seem to be starting to think a woman looks better surgically altered...) I hope the trend dies out soon.

Watched the repeats this morning and something struck me again: Polly's comment about trying not to be too opinionated. She has behaved abominably on many occasions and hasn't projected a good image of herself, but I'm sure we'd all agree that a woman should never ever try to be less opinionated to please a man.

There are ways and means to express oneself, yes, and Polly can be far too blunt imo. But no woman should ever try to become a fundamentally less opinionated person for anyone's sake, and it did make me wonder what might have been said by Shitlid off camera.

Polly needs therapy to regulate her emotions more. However, the TV show has no doubt given her licence to let loose with the dramatics. The effing and jeffing is a bit much. I do like Adam a lot more now and I think he has been fairly honest with her but he's no catch.
Nafe and Lacey are the least dramatic couple so haven't had so much airtime and I do think they genuinely like each other but I'm not convinced it's a true relationship or will go anywhere. There's no passion. They've come to an agreement in private and been respectful.
I think although everyone is in this for a few minutes of fame and the hope of a showbiz life to come most of them have shot themselves in the foot with their dreadful behaviour.

What the hell was Amy's problem last night? She turned up looking ridiculous and then was unnecessarily harsh with poor Gaston. Maybe she thought she was making some sort of statement that she's a strong independent woman who won't take shit from anyone, but she just came over as a bit of a dick.

My abiding memory of this series though will always be Shitlid's epic 'Muggy as fuck' comment... cracks me up every time they play it again.

Amy went full on widow at a Corleone funeral with that look. And she was unnecessarily vicious. I bet that speech sounds better to her in front of the mirror than it did on camera.

Faor play to Shitlid for walking off, I wonder if he'd even bothered to write anything or had assumed she'd go postal. I was also fascinated by the lack of fake tan on her inner arms.

Nafe and Lacey, predictable, cute, but nothing there really.

Not sure re Sacha and the crying. If it wasn't about Walsall then she was stitched up by the edit. But Ross really shouldn't move and leave his kid for the Ming Collective.

Looking forward to Hannah, the eternal spectre at the feast.

Does Mrs Ming always wear such small clothes in the house or was it just so we could see her massive biceps?

I know you'll all be wanting something special for your tea tonight given it's the reunion dinner party so sending you all a plate of...

Adam hasn't been the nicest. He's not a monster, neither of them are but he really hurt Polly with his comments re her looks saying she isn't only not his type but not 'unreal' i.e. highly attractive, and not slim i.e. the beauty standard. He was also giddy and flirty with others.

He uses her emotional dysregulation against her, winding her up and watching her go, whilst remaining the straight man as he can keep his temper despite saying some really unpleasant things.

I honestly think she starts a lot of these discussions with the intention of a head on but civil ironing out session, hoping he will just call it if he's had enough as she actually fancies him, but he never did. She's made herself look bad with the shouting, bawling and involvement in other people's biz but it wasn't unprovoked from his side. I think they're pretty even Stevens. Nobody is a nark assist or an abuser, they're just flawed people who should have called it a day rather than come out looking like twin dipsticks. She could equally have kept her dignity earlier and walked away.

Lace and Nafe are cute and I think will give it a go as two people of a similar age and background but I don't see them having much in common. I think they'll keep it friendly but soon want to milk the Celebs go dating circuit, he's love island material at least

Sacha and Ross logistics is confusing. I assumed his daughter was in Manchester but maybe not

bit behind but will catch up tonight. Sasha is such a selfish cow, obviously he can't move away from his daughter, just grow up, cut the apron ties & learn to bloody drive

I dont really understand this post, but if it means what I think, then it's a spoiler. Please don't post spoilers.

I wonder what the timeline is between final vows, then the reunion dinner party tonight and then the final reunion in front of experts tomorrow.

Anyone watching It's a Scouse Life?

I'm enjoying the facial fillers!

I was reflecting earlier and l wonder if Friar Tuck has been winding her up. Then Polpot explodes out of frustration.

She has been working on herself and how she resolves conflicts, but she's been goaded by public opinion. She has more work to do.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg00v5je5lo.amp

Let's not forget Friar Tucks mate, he has been trying to reason with him...when he could have agreed with him...has he seen this Friar Tuck behaviour before...?

Ugh. I'd thought of checking it out, but I don't think I can stand to see another load of fillers.

I’m not surprised, when she has a review like this…

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@familysquare is that seriously a real person?😵