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Traitors UK S2 Thread 6 "She believes everything I say"

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EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 24/01/2024 23:44

Carry on Faithful!

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QueenOfThorns · 26/01/2024 10:53

It made me laugh when someone said that Harry had drawn a ‘full-length sword’. That was only a full-length sword if your name is Frodo Baggins Grin

Edit: I think the next title should include the word ‘Wonderboy’, just because that made me snigger!

IGotItFromAgnes · 26/01/2024 10:54

I think Evie could be persuaded to turn against Jaz quite easily. She’s clever, and knows she’s a Faithful.

If someone suggests (or she realises) Harry’s non-murder could be a cover for recruitment, she might assume Jaz came up with that idea when Harry told him about the shield. As I’m not sure many of the non-traitors realise quite how strategic Harry is being.

IGotItFromAgnes · 26/01/2024 10:55

QueenOfThorns · 26/01/2024 10:53

It made me laugh when someone said that Harry had drawn a ‘full-length sword’. That was only a full-length sword if your name is Frodo Baggins Grin

Edit: I think the next title should include the word ‘Wonderboy’, just because that made me snigger!

Edited

How about Wonderboy: Excellent for cheddar?

Turkeyhen · 26/01/2024 11:04

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 10:51

The only way Harry can win now is to eliminate Jaz at the round table

A lot of things would have to happen to make this work.

Harry would have to really cotton on to the fact that Jaz is out for him - and I'm not sure who would tell him that. I think Jaz is too smart to reveal his hand to Mollie who would snitch.

He would then have to go Andrew and tell him that Jaz is out for him. Andrew knows Jaz has talked to him about Harry but he won't know if Jaz has been playing them both. It will plant a seed.

Harry then persuades Mollie - shouldn't be hard. And leaves it to Mollie to persuade Evie

Mollie and Jarry point the finger at Jaz at the table. Jaz calls out Harry. Harry lies to his face and says "I know you've talked to Andrew about me so how how come you've talked to me about Andrew" and makes Jaz look like a snake.

Andrew senses a tide against jaz so plumps to lose him.

Jaz goes

At the fire pit mollie won't turn on Harry and Andrew knows this so opts to share the money. Harry throws him under the bus

That is a highly plausible scenario. Hope it’s wrong!

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 26/01/2024 11:06

QueenOfThorns · 26/01/2024 10:53

It made me laugh when someone said that Harry had drawn a ‘full-length sword’. That was only a full-length sword if your name is Frodo Baggins Grin

Edit: I think the next title should include the word ‘Wonderboy’, just because that made me snigger!

Edited

We already done shouting that's not a catapult it's a trebuchet and that's not a crossbow it's a tiny ballista so that's not a swords it's a dagger seemed in keeping with the theme. Someone in the production team has terrible weapons identification skills. ⚔️ 🗡️🔪🏹

BringOnFebBankHoliday · 26/01/2024 11:14

Just caught up on the thread after last night’s episode – lots going on in my head, trying to figure it all out!
My first thought is that Harry will win because of Mollie – neither of those will vote each other out so they’ll end up in the final together and Harry will take all the money. I really don’t think Harry will keep Andrew in the final, he will dump him at the earliest opportunity.
The only way to get Harry out is for him to go at the first banishment tonight – for this to happen Jaz needs to speak up re Harry and get Andrew and Evie on board. 3 votes for Harry will get him out, if Evie or Jaz goes first I fear there’s no way for Harry not to win.

I am fed up of Jaz not speaking up – maybe he is playing a game and holding out until the final to get Harry out. But then the question is… does he suspect Andrew is also a traitor?

TheFifthTellytubby · 26/01/2024 11:19

OvaHere · 25/01/2024 08:54

If Harry wins, wonder if he’ll be pulled up in front of an Army Ethics Committee.

I was thinking he might get a promotion to Special Forces or recruited to MI5.* *😂

Same think occurred to me, but then on refection maybe not as everyone now knows what he looks like! 🤔😂

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/01/2024 11:20

BringOnFebBankHoliday · 26/01/2024 11:14

Just caught up on the thread after last night’s episode – lots going on in my head, trying to figure it all out!
My first thought is that Harry will win because of Mollie – neither of those will vote each other out so they’ll end up in the final together and Harry will take all the money. I really don’t think Harry will keep Andrew in the final, he will dump him at the earliest opportunity.
The only way to get Harry out is for him to go at the first banishment tonight – for this to happen Jaz needs to speak up re Harry and get Andrew and Evie on board. 3 votes for Harry will get him out, if Evie or Jaz goes first I fear there’s no way for Harry not to win.

I am fed up of Jaz not speaking up – maybe he is playing a game and holding out until the final to get Harry out. But then the question is… does he suspect Andrew is also a traitor?

His voice over said that he had to get out the traitor or traitors, so I think he's aware there may be more than one.

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 11:20

I think the Producers have missed a trick.

At the point that Claudia said "There will no lorded tonight" she should have said

"Ask yourselves this. Could you all now be Faithful?"

Because otherwise Harry's reassurance to Andrew is meaningless because as things stand, No one will stop until stop until at least one more Traitor is found.

I think a suggestion should have been made that maybe they've rooted them all out now. Ans maybe not.

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/01/2024 11:21

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 11:20

I think the Producers have missed a trick.

At the point that Claudia said "There will no lorded tonight" she should have said

"Ask yourselves this. Could you all now be Faithful?"

Because otherwise Harry's reassurance to Andrew is meaningless because as things stand, No one will stop until stop until at least one more Traitor is found.

I think a suggestion should have been made that maybe they've rooted them all out now. Ans maybe not.

I prefer what she did say: "If there is a Traitor or Traitors left..."

Throw the poor guys a bone!

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 11:22

*murder

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 11:25

@NonPlayerCharacter

Oh I didn't hear her say that.

Fair enough then.

None of them seem to be considering for a moment that they could all be Faithful though

MajesticWhine · 26/01/2024 11:25

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 11:20

I think the Producers have missed a trick.

At the point that Claudia said "There will no lorded tonight" she should have said

"Ask yourselves this. Could you all now be Faithful?"

Because otherwise Harry's reassurance to Andrew is meaningless because as things stand, No one will stop until stop until at least one more Traitor is found.

I think a suggestion should have been made that maybe they've rooted them all out now. Ans maybe not.

They know there is a traitor left because Zac was murdered. No traitor has been found since then.

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 26/01/2024 11:27

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 11:25

@NonPlayerCharacter

Oh I didn't hear her say that.

Fair enough then.

None of them seem to be considering for a moment that they could all be Faithful though

Because they can't!
There hasn't been a traitor banished since Zach was murdered so they know there is at least one traitor left.

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 11:29

@MajesticWhine

Yes. I just realised this.

So Harry insisting to Andrew that they will be in it together till the end makes zero sense.

Andrew knows that the game won't stop until at least one Traitor is out. They can't both win.

Even more reason for Andrew to join Jaz and turn on Harry.

Oh no!

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/01/2024 11:29

They're also probably savvy enough to realise the producers will never let them get to the end with no Traitors.

crabbyoldbat · 26/01/2024 11:37

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 11:29

@MajesticWhine

Yes. I just realised this.

So Harry insisting to Andrew that they will be in it together till the end makes zero sense.

Andrew knows that the game won't stop until at least one Traitor is out. They can't both win.

Even more reason for Andrew to join Jaz and turn on Harry.

Oh no!

Excellent point - they really can't both win, and both should know that

crabbyoldbat · 26/01/2024 11:43

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/01/2024 11:29

They're also probably savvy enough to realise the producers will never let them get to the end with no Traitors.

Even if theoretically, say, 5 faithful made it to the end, its in their interest to continue to "have suspicions" and banish people, so there are fewer to share with. The three last year could have cut down to two easily, before declaring they were satisfied.

MaggieFS · 26/01/2024 11:43

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 11:29

@MajesticWhine

Yes. I just realised this.

So Harry insisting to Andrew that they will be in it together till the end makes zero sense.

Andrew knows that the game won't stop until at least one Traitor is out. They can't both win.

Even more reason for Andrew to join Jaz and turn on Harry.

Oh no!

Most likely one of them has to go, yes.

IF Harry and Andrew voted the same way and Mollie followed them, they could get rid of Evie first and then Jaz. Then they could vote out Molie, end the game and split the money.

It will make better tele if they realise the only way to win the entire pot is for the other traitor to be banished and turn on each other early on.

Either way traitors win.

Least likely outcome IMHO is that they turn on each other and the faithful don't risk keeping either of them, and banish them one after another whilst still in the majority. V unlikely, because Mollie is not likely to vote against Harry, and Evie and Mollie probably wouldn't believe a suggestion that there are potentially two traitors. Plus if they manage to banish one, they'll be so giddy with excitement they'll lose their brains.

crabbyoldbat · 26/01/2024 11:47

MaggieFS · 26/01/2024 11:43

Most likely one of them has to go, yes.

IF Harry and Andrew voted the same way and Mollie followed them, they could get rid of Evie first and then Jaz. Then they could vote out Molie, end the game and split the money.

It will make better tele if they realise the only way to win the entire pot is for the other traitor to be banished and turn on each other early on.

Either way traitors win.

Least likely outcome IMHO is that they turn on each other and the faithful don't risk keeping either of them, and banish them one after another whilst still in the majority. V unlikely, because Mollie is not likely to vote against Harry, and Evie and Mollie probably wouldn't believe a suggestion that there are potentially two traitors. Plus if they manage to banish one, they'll be so giddy with excitement they'll lose their brains.

Oh ffs, this game has too many bloody convolutions. This is also an excellent point.

Particularly this bit 'if they manage to banish one, they'll be so giddy with excitement they'll lose their brains.' Never a truer word typed

lemonsaretheonlyfruit · 26/01/2024 11:50

Isn't it extremely risky for Harry to write steal at the end if both him and Andrew are left (looking increasingly less likely but it could happen)?

Because Andrew probably knows he will be stitched up by Harry who will almost undoubtedly write 'steal' .. so if Andrew also decides to write that they end up with nothing!

MaggieFS · 26/01/2024 11:55

I've just gone downstairs for late elevenses, and guess what the the last piece of shortbread in the tin is!!!!!!

Traitors UK S2 Thread 6 "She believes everything I say"
crabbyoldbat · 26/01/2024 12:00

lemonsaretheonlyfruit · 26/01/2024 11:50

Isn't it extremely risky for Harry to write steal at the end if both him and Andrew are left (looking increasingly less likely but it could happen)?

Because Andrew probably knows he will be stitched up by Harry who will almost undoubtedly write 'steal' .. so if Andrew also decides to write that they end up with nothing!

There isn't going to be a steal or share game at the end. They haven't said there is, and they've explicitly said 'any traitors left at the end win'. They can't change the rules after the fact.

I've no idea where people have got this daft notion from.

Mellowautumnmists · 26/01/2024 12:01

MaggieFS · 26/01/2024 11:55

I've just gone downstairs for late elevenses, and guess what the the last piece of shortbread in the tin is!!!!!!

It's a sign! You need to apply for next year's show!

GoldenGumballs · 26/01/2024 12:02

lemonsaretheonlyfruit · 26/01/2024 11:50

Isn't it extremely risky for Harry to write steal at the end if both him and Andrew are left (looking increasingly less likely but it could happen)?

Because Andrew probably knows he will be stitched up by Harry who will almost undoubtedly write 'steal' .. so if Andrew also decides to write that they end up with nothing!

Do they do this? I thought they just split the money ( which is why Andrew is going under the bus)

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