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Traitors UK S2 Thread 6 "She believes everything I say"

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EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 24/01/2024 23:44

Carry on Faithful!

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Turkeyhen · 26/01/2024 09:54

MaggieFS · 26/01/2024 09:48

I did initially, but then he had the same face when Andrew was telling his story afterwards which was really odd!

That is hilarious 😂

commonground · 26/01/2024 09:54

happinessischocolate · 26/01/2024 06:09

Harry getting the sword is still bothering me. I'm not one for conspiracies and generally think that the crew don't interfere that much in the choices made, but Harry, as the last person picking the right sword is too much.

What if all the swords had a longer blade over the top but some mechanism in the stone only allowed the last person to pull out the whole sword.

It would be a very standard magic trick.

🧐

Yes, I'm leaning that way too. Of course having them stand at points of the star was a clever move because any point can be the first go. If you are in a line up for eg then, it's obvious who goes first.

(Although on the other hand, if there had been more at stake than just take the money or not, that would lend more weight to a conspiracy theory. Hmm...)

shearwater2 · 26/01/2024 09:57

I think some people are ignorant about the role of the Faithfuls and how they need to play it. Big mouths get shot down. People who are too quiet get shot down. People who don't contribute enough to the games are banished. People are randomly banished. People are randomly murdered.

I will not hear any argument other than that the ones remaining have played a great game. Particularly those who have been Faithfuls from the start.

MaggieFS · 26/01/2024 09:57

Good shout - if the order was based on which star point the players stood next to, then I can live with that, rather than thinking it was a fix that Harry was last.

shearwater2 · 26/01/2024 09:59

Harry drawing the sword did not do him any favours at all, as it put him in the spotlight. It is literally a double edged sword.

crabbyoldbat · 26/01/2024 09:59

Alchemistress · 26/01/2024 08:15

If Evie is banished, she's faithful so they know the traitor is still in the mix.

Mollie votes for Andrew
Harry votes for Andrew
Jaz votes for Harry
Andrew votes for Harry

Then what?

Yes, what does happen in the event of a draw? previously they re-voted without the two who drew, but that's make no difference in this case.

Riverlee · 26/01/2024 10:01

FiveFoxes · 26/01/2024 09:14

It was mentioned briefly on here during the episode, but did anyone else wonder why Harry didn't know how many were in his family? He said "There are 11 or 12 of us". Confused

Yes, I thought that was weird, unless it was eleven excluding jinn, and twelve with him.

Riverlee · 26/01/2024 10:05

I’d like either Jaz or Harry to win, as they’ve been the most strategic.

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/01/2024 10:08

crabbyoldbat · 26/01/2024 09:59

Yes, what does happen in the event of a draw? previously they re-voted without the two who drew, but that's make no difference in this case.

If it's the same as the round table, Claudia said it would go to chance. I guess they have some dramatic lottery setup...

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 10:11

I don't think Mollie deserves a place in the final. She has been poor at tasks and poor at weeding out Traitors - which are her two jobs basically.

The most shocking ending (from the players pov) would be a Mollie Evie Harry collaboration and then Harry's reveal. But I think Jaz's Tiger will put load to that.

I predict a Jaz/Evie win.

Can someone remind me of format for final?

Is it
Breakfast
Task
Round Table?
Fire pit

I can't recall if they do another Round Table.

crabbyoldbat · 26/01/2024 10:15

I think the faithful forget that, at this point, they've got nothing to lose. They know there's a least one traitor amongst them (because Zack was murdered after they last voted one out), and so they cannot win without finding them.

Evie is the one who really needs to cotton on to this - she knows she's faithful, so who's got suspicion mounting up? who can she gang up on? who's going to vote for who? If she isn't banished herself, who is she gunning for?

The remaining four - Harry and Andrew might go for Evie, just because it's a likely banishment, but they know its not her, and once she's gone there's still known to be a traitor in there. So they'd be wise to go for each other at this point, rather than Evie, because she's still be there to take final flack, rather than either of them.

If the banishments went Andrew/Harry then Evie, would the remaining two faithfuls (Mollie, Jaz) still be suspicious there was another traitor, given Evie was faithful? Or would they say, that's it, game over, and lose? I think, if it were Andrew remaining, they'd have a dilemma because Mollie suspects him, and if it were Harry remaining, because Jaz knows its him. Who would be more persuasive of the other - Mollie being persuaded by Jaz against Harry, or Jaz persuaded by Mollie against Andrew? What if Jaz suspects Andrew, too?

aaaargh!

Stowickthevast · 26/01/2024 10:16

LOL @Dotellhimpike

In his original interview, Harry said he has 5 brothers and sisters so I guess 11 or 12 must be with partners.

Yes @SlightlyJaded they have a final roundtable before the fire pit.

I haven't seen one where it's reached an impasse in the final 4 so not sure how they'd solve it.

crabbyoldbat · 26/01/2024 10:16

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/01/2024 10:08

If it's the same as the round table, Claudia said it would go to chance. I guess they have some dramatic lottery setup...

Ah, thanks

Stowickthevast · 26/01/2024 10:19

@crabbyoldbat yes, it's an interesting one. If Harry gets banished first, will the others think that's it and go through to the final with Andrew?

If Andrew gets banished first, I think Jaz will try and get Harry out at the Fire pit but may not have the numbers.

And if Evie gets banished first, then it'll be straight up Andrew Vs Harry at the firepit with one supporter each.

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 26/01/2024 10:23

MaggieFS · 26/01/2024 09:57

Good shout - if the order was based on which star point the players stood next to, then I can live with that, rather than thinking it was a fix that Harry was last.

There were still multiple swords left - going last didn't guarantee him the sword. What we don't know is whether they would have carried on round again until the sword was pulled or if it would have stopped after one turn each.

MaggieFS · 26/01/2024 10:23

Stowickthevast · 26/01/2024 10:19

@crabbyoldbat yes, it's an interesting one. If Harry gets banished first, will the others think that's it and go through to the final with Andrew?

If Andrew gets banished first, I think Jaz will try and get Harry out at the Fire pit but may not have the numbers.

And if Evie gets banished first, then it'll be straight up Andrew Vs Harry at the firepit with one supporter each.

That's what I'm expecting. So Evie, Jaz and Andrew would do well to team up and get Harry out in the first round.

Dotellhimpike · 26/01/2024 10:27

The thing about the swords, as other have said is that it wouldn't be that difficult to fix it so that Harry was the one who picked the right one but whether or not they would fix it so that this happened.

I don't think they would, I don't think the show is steered towards a specific outcome as much as letting it all play out then choosing a specific outcome/narrative through the editing process.

FiveFoxes · 26/01/2024 10:28

shearwater2 · 26/01/2024 09:59

Harry drawing the sword did not do him any favours at all, as it put him in the spotlight. It is literally a double edged sword.

But it is great for cutting cheddar!

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 26/01/2024 10:32

ParsnipAndPoppy · 26/01/2024 08:46

The more I think about it the more disappointed I am that Mollie will be in with a shot at the money.

She is only in the final because she’s sat on the coattails of other people who have put themselves at risk by sharing their opinions. Even Evie has been more proactive and engaged than mollie.

She may be nice and kind (but the tee hee hee hee giggle fest with Evie last night tipped me over the edge) but can you imagine if we had a whole cast of Mollie’s on there?

She’s been a passenger in the programme imho, if she wins anything then it undermines the whole exercise.

I know many won’t agree with me.

If she rocks up to the round table tonight points the finger at Harry and declares that she has been on to him for weeks and has built a 'bond' with him to get to the final would you change your mind about her?

I would love his telling her she was safe to come back and bite him on the arse.

I don't think it will play out this way but if it did it would be a fantastic play by Mollie.

MaggieFS · 26/01/2024 10:33

Was the quote "excellent for cheddar" or "excellent for cheese"? Either way it was nominated for the next thread title, alongside "I'm fucked", which just pips it for me.

Turkeyhen · 26/01/2024 10:34

I do think the swords thing was a fix. Imagine if the first player had picked it: total damp squib. Also, an offer of £7k wasn't enough of a temptation to make it truly dramatic. Agree with pp who said it could have been something like pick a player to instantly banish.

IGotItFromAgnes · 26/01/2024 10:41

MaggieFS · 26/01/2024 10:33

Was the quote "excellent for cheddar" or "excellent for cheese"? Either way it was nominated for the next thread title, alongside "I'm fucked", which just pips it for me.

It was “excellent for cheddar” although I like “I’m fucked” as well

QueenOfThorns · 26/01/2024 10:46

Turkeyhen · 26/01/2024 09:54

That is hilarious 😂

It’s absolutely true, I noticed it as well. He was leaning his chin on his hand and gazing at them with besotted, puppy dog eyes. Very strange, I thought!

periodiclabel · 26/01/2024 10:48

I think the swords thing may have been manipulated in the edit so Harry didn't necessarily go as late on as it seemed

SlightlyJaded · 26/01/2024 10:51

The only way Harry can win now is to eliminate Jaz at the round table

A lot of things would have to happen to make this work.

Harry would have to really cotton on to the fact that Jaz is out for him - and I'm not sure who would tell him that. I think Jaz is too smart to reveal his hand to Mollie who would snitch.

He would then have to go Andrew and tell him that Jaz is out for him. Andrew knows Jaz has talked to him about Harry but he won't know if Jaz has been playing them both. It will plant a seed.

Harry then persuades Mollie - shouldn't be hard. And leaves it to Mollie to persuade Evie

Mollie and Jarry point the finger at Jaz at the table. Jaz calls out Harry. Harry lies to his face and says "I know you've talked to Andrew about me so how how come you've talked to me about Andrew" and makes Jaz look like a snake.

Andrew senses a tide against jaz so plumps to lose him.

Jaz goes

At the fire pit mollie won't turn on Harry and Andrew knows this so opts to share the money. Harry throws him under the bus

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