Eurovision 2023 Liverpool: Grand Final

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BBC 1 8pm Saturday 13th May

1 Austria
2 Portugal
3 Switzerland
4 Poland
5 Serbia
6 France
7 Cyprus
8 Spain
9 Sweden (bookies fav) - time to raise your glass for Terry
10 Albania
11 Italy
12 Estonia
13 Finland (2nd fav)

14 Czechia
15 Australia
16 Belgium
17 Armenia
18 Moldova
19 Ukraine
20 Norway
21 Germany
22 Lithuania
23 Israel
24 Slovenia
25 Croatia
26 UK

Join us for Harry Styles Wannabes, Scary Nails, an Ewok, Boy George, Heavy Metal, Nukes, Men in Vest Tops, the usual Bond Theme, Stupid Impractical Dresses, Ridiculously High Heels and Platform Shoes, Emily Thornberry MP, Lots of Dancing and Mae Muller trying not to hit bum notes again (no pressure Mae)

Your 2023 drinking game cues:
Men in shorts
Artist lies down on stage
Performer dressed in pink
Traditional Instruments
Removal/Change of clothes on stage
The Beatles are mentioned
Alisha raps
Euphoria is mentioned
Abba is mentioned
Måns is wheeled out
The War is mentioned
Presenter Hannah speaks French
Man in suit without shirt (applies to first appearance on screen only)
Obviously fake overwhitened teeth (again only applies to first appearance on screen)

I think the UK entry is pretty solid, not a last placer. There were lots of absolute shockers in the semis, some of which are now in the final.

Need to watch on catch up.

Currently watching Eurovision the story of fire saga...

... Not feeling it tbh. DH and his mate are playing the drinking game and doing lots of giggling like children.

Thanks for the photos RTB - gives a little flavour of the city for those of us who can't be there.

That’s mad Ted.

im on mobile browser.

Another nerd graphic.

This is the running order and which position the winner was

The 'modern' era is regarded as 2010 onwards. No one in the modera era has won before song 10

Position 10 - 2015
Position 11 - 2014 2017
Position 12 - 2019 2022
Position 17 - 2012
Position 18 - 2013
Position 19 - 2011
Position 21 - 2016
Position 22 - 2010 2018
Position 24 - 2021

I love that graphic @RedToothBrush. I didn’t realise spot 16 had no winners. How interesting!

The golden no17 spot is officially Toilet Break Time...

Watching the top 20 non winners show.

She’s not a teen anymore but she’s a Eurovision geek & dd reckons no 1 is Rosa Linn - Snap.

And yet the bookie's favourite, Sweden, is at number 9.

Gossip from jury show

Switzerland vocals less than perfect.
France had a better night - she nailed the vocal apparently which she didn't do at the semi she performed at.
Some discussion going on about Sweden. Some disagreement over how good. Some suggestion that Loreen's vocal at the jury show wasn't perfect. She was expected to do very well (win) the jury vote despite it though
Italy (who have one of the best slot) performed really well
Finland seems likely to win the televote. Not the best for jury show on technicality.
Ukraines staging sounds like one of the best of the lot.
UK had a mare at the rehearsal before the jury show this evening. The jury show was better but still below quality of rest of the contestants.
Jury show speculation suggests France, Italy, Spain, Armenia, Israel and Sweden should fair well in the jury vote. Being suggested that the jury won't like Serbia, Moldova, Germany, Croatia, UK and Poland much.

I wonder where did 'they' find Mae Muller. She's obviously a good recording artist and a nice girl in general but those vocals live - not great at all. Didn't they check?

Came for the feminism, staying for the Eurovision. I had no idea Mumsnet/Eurovision was a thing but delighted to find this out. It's the only thing (bar #duvetknowitschristmas) I miss about Twitter.

I dislike the UK entry. It is not the blandest thing on the menu but its up there.

I'm loving Australia and Ukraine, closely followed by Belge George and Lithuania.

Strong adverse reaction to Finland's novelty offering this year. Sorry Fin fans. He looks like an acid-enduced extra from RTE's Love/Hate...

Found it funny that that Finland geezer is doing Baga Chipz's "Much Betta!" arm movements from Drag Race UK and UK vs the World!

Thank you for the info. Decided to go have a wander. Spotted 4 of the songbirds, floating Earth is at Albert Dock too. It was a lovely atmosphere round the area.

Your lambanana photo much better than mine as there were crowds everywhere.
Saw a man in complete Batman costume!

Ended up in the queue for the fan village- took almost two hours to get in.

Tempted to go in again tomorrow! Outside the fan village is nicest atmosphere. Didn’t spot the giant eggs so I’ll go look out for those. I do love liverpool.

Two hours, Rummikub? Oh no! A capacity issue, perhaps? Am going down there today, if it's ticketed it might flow more smoothly I hope (crosses everything).

It might be a capacity issue but there's only three entrances to the fan zone I think. And Security is SLOW. I know that last Sunday, the queues were 45mins at about 2pm (just before Andy and the Odd Socks were due onstage for 'family day'). I do think the headliners yesterday have more pulling power than Andy Day!

My advice is, if you have tickets for the screening, to go early for this reason. I think it's going to take a long time to get through security today.

Likewise for the venue tbh.

If there aren't allocated entrances for today's tickets, I suspect the entrance on the far side of the area (dockside) half way way down close to Fab Four Cafe (not the entrance behind Museum of Liverpool) is likely to be the quietest entrance today. It's the entrance which is hardest to get to and a bit out of the way.

Also, think carefully about where you park. The arena and the fan zone are going to be kicking out at the same time. And there's no trains.

I wouldn't advise parking down near the docks tonight. If you can park across town and walk down, I very much suspect you can get out of whichever venue you are, walk back to your car and get clear of the city ahead of the traffic trapped down by the kings dock and Liverpool one q park by some margin!

Thanks Red. We went down for Andy last week and assumed the queue was so busy as the acts started soon after the gates opened. But sounds like even if it's a steady stream it's still a faff and a long wait. I'm not really interested in any of the pre show acts today so not bothered about missing anyone, but still a two hour queue in the shade doing nothing is just a waste of a nice day with so much else going on.

I see they will stop letting people in today at 8 when the contest starts so I really hope for their sakes they're on top of that!

I don't think they will have a choice if there is a backlog of queue as it will cause crowd trouble in its own right. They won't want a repeat after the entirely predictable St George's Hall fiasco on Sunday.

I think getting that message out will be more about encouraging people to turn up early for that reason.

I also think they will want to clear the dockside area outside the arena to stop people trying to crash the arena (street furniture and barriers are on the dockside make me go hmm with the alcohol factor)

Tbh I suspect most people will want to be there well in advance anyway. There is a real excitement about tonight.

A shame about Mae being less than perfect live, because it's a good song I think.

Watching that top 20 non-winners show really brought home the fact that the one thing you need, before anything else, is absolutely bulletproof vocals. The singing on all those numbers was impeccable, even the ones who were doing massive dance routines. That's what Sam Ryder had last year, and what lost Blue the jury votes when they fluffed the jury rehearsal.

Italy’s selection process always seems to result in an act who can sing live. They always get a great result. I just can’t imagine them coming last.

It didn’t feel like it tbh as there was stuff to see. But yes (Airport style) security is slow.
people were getting drinks for the queue.

It was one in one out. They counted people leaving and allowed that in. Inside there was plenty of room. Fan zone opens at 2 and not allowed to go in and out.

Does anybody know roughly what time all the performances will be finished? DD wants to stay up for the songs and go to bed before the voting but I don't know how late that will be and whether to agree or not!

Agree!