Kiri, Channel4, Wed 10th Jan

[southeastdweller]

Anyone else looking forward to this? The writer also wrote the recent Robbie Coltrane drama, National Treasure, and Sarah Lancashire is always superb.

www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2017-10-31/kiri-channel-4-trailer/

I agree with most of that, gabsdot, but I can't get my head around the idea that the fm could have done it and then behave as she is doing now straight afterwards. It would take one hell of a lot of clever writing to convince me her character could so effectively disassociate itself from her earlier actions. I can see her justifying in her own mind that it is everyone else's fault that she did it, but not the calm lies and cover ups involved in advertising her story on national TV. Even if telling herself she has to lie, or she'll be taken away from her ds and ruin his life, I can't believe she would be able to maintain the facade in the way she did in episode 2.

I'm thinking Shaun Matthews case re Steven Mackintosh - he's too good an actor to be a bit part, and that case was always prime drama material.

I read a Leanne Moriarty book where someone was accidentally strangled but because of an underlying health problem it took very little strangling to kill them. Perhaps this is the case here. Perhaps no on killed her. There hasn't been an inquest yet. Perhaps the scarf got caught on a tree branch and choked her.

What's the Shaun Matthews case? I can't find anything that looks relevant on Google.

Shannon Matthews????

Maybe Kiri's nosebleeds are relevant if there is some underlying condition?

Really struggled with the later part of this episode. If it’s the son (I agree it’s unlikely as they’ve hinted so early) it’ll be much too close to home for me, especially if the parents are covering for him.

Enjoying the acting though, it’s a good series and I’m definitley going to watch national treasure now.

I wonder if it's just a random stranger, then we will all be wrong footed as we could make a case for it being pretty much anyone of her foster or birth family.

I think whatever the reason for Kiri's death turns out to be, Miriam will end up being thrown to the wolves. She's just given them too much ammo in terms of her general approach, chaotic lifestyle, drinking etc. (regardless of whether any of this actually contributed to her judgement in this case). You can just imagine how the press would treat her if this were a real case. That (i.e. treatment of social workers - in many ways a no-win, thankless job) may turn out to be the real story here.

I think it was the other younger social worker. She’s in love/jealous of Miriam

Well that's confirmed the FM was following them to the grandparents house

outcrops I have had my suspicions about her from the start.

Always too quick to rush to Miriam when she comes in, calls her when she is assaulted, just happens to let slip about the drinking, the comment about Miriam fancying her..

It's too suspicious for her not to be involved to some extent!

Sion Jenkins murder of Billie-Jo = that's the case I'm thinking of.

Sion J was an upstanding citizen/deputy headmaster who was done for bludgeoning his foster DD, Billie-Jo (age 13) to death with a metal tent spike in 1998. Judgment was overturned on appeal, ie he got out of prison several years later, by which time the wife had divorced him.

Or perhaps she wants to cover up for the son?

So was foster Mum a teacher? And then stopped? Presumably to foster kiri? But then the principal said she was in recovery. From what?

Wow, mum's fancy man is HOT!

Urgh what is this creepy little scrote doing???

Wtf was all that in the bathroom

I’ve always disliked the nickname “si” and this show is making me see red every time I hear it

Ok. Weird.

This all just gets weirder. What on earth is Si all about?

Question, is FM extremely flat chested or has she had a double mastectomy?

I have no idea where this is going now

Really nice house though. I need to become part of a fictional tv family.

It's definitely getting weird! As the first one was from the social worker's perspective, and the second from the birth family's view, maybe this one is from Simon?