Kiri, Channel4, Wed 10th Jan

[southeastdweller]

Anyone else looking forward to this? The writer also wrote the recent Robbie Coltrane drama, National Treasure, and Sarah Lancashire is always superb.

www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2017-10-31/kiri-channel-4-trailer/

Ending had more holes than Swiss cheese

I agree with everything @DonnyAndVladSittingInATree said:

Yes apparently Kiri was seen on CCTV getting off the bus near their house but no CCTV captured the foster dads car taking Kiri away from the house or the foster Mum coming back after following Miriam? And Mum didn’t hear Kiri coming home, packing her bag, telling foster Dad she was leaving? Yeah, sure. Loada balls. Really poorly thought out. The ending felt thrown together as if they had no clue how it was actually going to end until they were filming it

However, on a deeper level I think it was trying to make a point. If you forget about the content of the show, the message I think it's quite poignant albeit well-trodden territory in TV drama.... A middle class white man does something terrible, the rest of his white middle class family lie to police and each other to protect him, police believe the lies of a white middle class person and use these lies to falsely charge an innocent, though historically troubled black man.

White family, despite their outward appearance as "perfect" are actually completely fucked up, all hate each other and everyone ends up lonely and miserable. However, lonely and miserable with a beautiful though really messy house, excellent education, nice car etc.
Black family and community pull together to try and get justice.

Fine but formulaic.

The scene with the other former foster children in that drug addicts flat was horrendous. I actually had to hide behind my hands watching it.

Sarah Lancashire's Bristol accent was ridiculous. And, as usual, she brought her own brand of ridiculously over-dramatic acting to the show. The scene where she screamed at the panel was like something from an A-level medial studies project.

What a load of fucking shit.

What. The actual. Fuck.

This always happens. I invest my time in something and the ending is fucking bollocks,.

The detective mentioned the rock she hit her head on before we heard it from the foster Dad. She told grandad that “we even identified the rock she hit her head on” when she was in his garage. Why wasn’t a head injury mentioned until tonight?

Have I missed something? If they mentioned that she hit her head on a rock, doesn't that clearly imply a head injury?

Yes apparently Kiri was seen on CCTV getting off the bus near their house but no CCTV captured the foster dads car taking Kiri away from the house or the foster Mum coming back after following Miriam? And Mum didn’t hear Kiri coming home, packing her bag, telling foster Dad she was leaving? Yeah, sure. Loada balls. Really poorly thought out.

I don't understand this. CCTV coverage is never universal, and tends not to be on residential roads - essentially whether there is CCTV in place depends on the whim of shopkeepers etc as to whether they choose to put one up, or if there happens to be a traffic camera, which is usually only on busy roads. Bus routes tend to follow main roads and go near shops which may have CCTV. Why would you assume that because there's CCTV showing the bus stop it must cover the entire surrounding area?

Do we know whether Alice actually went back to the house after following Miriam's car? In any event they did establish that she has headphones on playing music when she's working.

Well of course it was the white ,male, middle class foster father because the perpetrator on every tv show these days is always white middle class and male.More of a surprise would be if the perpetrator was a female or from an ethnic minority . It does make the decision as to whether to watch the latest thriller/drama on tv an easy decision don't bother because it will be obvious who "did it" ,not the women ethnic minority or disabled characters. Note to writers , more variety in your rapists , murderers and other ne'er do wells please .

Have I missed something? If they mentioned that she hit her head on a rock, doesn't that clearly imply a head injury?

It does indeed. Why was it only mentioned last night? Seems pretty important.

The CCTV captured Kiri getting off a bus a 3 minute walk from their house. That’s not very far at all. The foster dad said he put her in the car and drove her back to the town where she said her dad was waiting. So the reverse of the route she had come on the bus. He then somehow ended up at the downs with her, the same downs that his son said in a previous episode CCTV would show him at as he had been there the day Kiri died.

because the perpetrator on every tv show these days is always white middle class and male.

Like RL.

because the perpetrator on every tv show these days is always white middle class and male

Like RL.

^This

has there been an even slight hint at a second season.. which may go part way to explain why it stopped MID BOLLOCKS on my screen ..

Mid bollocks

lol

I probably wouldn't watch another series, like I won't be watching the next series of Marcella which is starting this month. Thank goodness Endeavour is back. You know you'll have a proper ending there.

The best scene for me last night was the one in the garage with the grandad and the policewoman when she went to his house.
Very powerful and well acted I thought, especially when she said to him "no, you're the father".

Otherwise a bit disappointing and what was the actual point of SLs mother in her measly 2 scenes? Waste of a good actress.

I do like Wunmi Mosaku as an actress- she has a very serene quality about her.

I probably wouldn't watch another series, like I won't be watching the next series of Marcella which is starting this month. Thank goodness Endeavour is back. You know you'll have a proper ending there

100% agreed Marcella was a waste of pretentious energy

I LOVE Endeavour.... just class

'I do like Wunmi Mosaku as an actress- she has a very serene quality about her.'

I agree. She's gorgeous and a fine actress. I felt sorry for her character - poor woman never seemed to sleep!

Wasn’t the CCTV actually ON the bus? So she would be seen getting on, sitting on and getting off the bus but there wasn’t any CCTV covering the roads?

in the second episode wasn’t she strangled and there was lots of emphasis on her neck and the marks there? No mention of a head injury!

AHH singme that makes a big difference then. I misunderstood it to be on street CCTV.

Yes I was also wondering about SLs Mum. Seemed a bit pointless to have such a big name actress to play that role.

Wunmi Mosaku is so beautiful

The whole plot came across as so contrived. Are police investigations normally quite so inept? I can believe in trial by media, but allowing media kneejerk reactions to completely fuck up a police investigation is a bit alarming. No way would a case that flimsy make it as far as a trial, unless the defence was so monumentally useless as to be criminally negligent itself (along with the CPS for letting it get that far).

I liked it, despite the plot holes. I enjoyed the acting and I found it nuanced and thought-provoking. I think that the foster dad was desperate to adopt Kiri because he knew that his wife would divorce him once their near-adult son went to university unless they had another, younger child. So, I understood why he might have seen red when Kiri expressed an interest in moving in with her bio family - his vision of his life over the next ten years was collapsing.

We only have his version of events though. Perhaps he's covering for his wife. Maybe he did it having planned it. He might have been abusing her. I don't know if we'll get a S2 though, if the wider public and the critics are as disappointed as many on here.

Don't think there was any hint the foster dad was abusing her. For once, it was actually a drama without the usual child abuse clichéd storyline.

I had such HIGH hopes for the ending ... desperately hoping someone in the adoptive family home would be found responsible of the killing of this child... sadly NOT

Well that was 4 hours of my life that I'll never get back. What a pile of shite and it sounded so promising before it started. I didn't think any of it was good but I wanted to see it through. I should have given up as I initially thought. So slow. Hardly anything actually happened.

I just watched. Stupid recording cut off when they were parked outside school. How much did I miss?

Guessing it'll be on 4oD.