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Liar Monday 9pm

946 replies

troodiedoo · 11/09/2017 15:25

I'm sure there are many planning to watch this tonight but I can't see a thread, apologies if there is one.

Looks promising with good acting stock. I'm already worried about the implications for real life reporting and conviction rates if the female is lying. Got a feeling it won't be that black and white though.

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VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 23/09/2017 21:34

Despite all the flaws I'm quite enjoying this (the wrong word but you get what I mean). Actually pretty disturbing. And I do like that she's an annoying moo who's not v likeable and not helping herself but I still feel for her - nothing's black or white here.
But why o why did she shower?!
6 episodes way too much imo.

desperatehousewife2 · 23/09/2017 22:03

Episode 2 is on itv player now, must have been put on today sometime

RebootYourEngine · 24/09/2017 19:58

I am hooked but it is so irritating. There are so many questions and inconsistancies. Also JFs character is annoying.

Graphista · 25/09/2017 00:35

There have been a few cases where it was alleged that insulin was used to date rape. It would drop the blood sugar rapidly incapacitating and disorienting the victim. No convictions as yet but then we all know how hard it is to get a rape conviction and of course the reason these creeps use drugs is not just to incapacitate the victim but to render them as seen as unreliable witnesses. As a surgeon he would of course be an expert in administering drugs plus he may not always have been a surgeon

What I thought was telling was he said 'she never told me to stop' so I wonder if the writers are partially writing a treatise on consent and that most rapists don't consider themselves rapists because rather than seeking consent, they only would stop if NON consent slaps them in the face!

although if he did drug her he really should KNOW he's a rapist.

There's also a phenomenon known as 're-victimisation' - someone who has been a victim of rape/sexual assault ONCE is MORE likely to be a victim again. There are clues that someone has been a victim before in their body language, tone of voice, even their scent.

I've seen this referenced in several ways. Rose and Fred wests victims there was an imbalance in how many were already previous victims of csa, a high preponderance of runaways who ran due to csa are the ones most vulnerable to sexual exploitation, in fiction on law & order svu and unforgotten.

Unfortunately I have experienced this myself and know others that have too. Sadly it tends to reinforce the idea that there's 'something about me' that makes us vulnerable to these pricks.

Just because a victim makes more than one allegation doesn't mean they're lying.

As for 'he's so calm' well date rapists have to be don't they? Plus charming, affable, approachable... Otherwise they'd never get near a victim.

If he killed his wife I suspect it was because she had evidence.

ZuzuMyLittleGingersnap · 25/09/2017 18:30

"...that most rapists don't consider themselves rapists because rather than seeking consent, they only would stop if NON consent slaps them in the face!"

A lot of truth to that, I would think.

ZuzuMyLittleGingersnap · 25/09/2017 18:41

cudeatahorse,

Zoe Tapper (the sister) is also currently in the 2nd series of "Safe House", ITV thriller.

cliffdiver · 25/09/2017 19:32

6 episodes!!

I thought there were only 4.

Oh well, hopefully it's worth it and not one of those 'I wish they wrapped it up in episode 3 or 4' type dramas.

I think there is a third party involved.

In episode one I immediately thought the ex boyfriend but that may be too obvious.

The BIL...? A lot of the camera views implies someone is watching. The scene when Laura and her sister were 'being watched' from the garden could suggest it would be him.

The son...?

Could the older gentleman on that phone at the end of the last episode be Laura's dad?

DigestiveMuncher · 25/09/2017 21:05

We actually find out who’s lying in this one!! Which means there’s clearly a lot more to the story. I have sided with him so far. Especially after the phone call he received in the last episode.. but then again has she done it before or did that guy get away with it because she may of been on her medication when it happened?.. I hope it gets better though! Interesting to see how it all pans out.

squaresandsquares · 25/09/2017 21:10

I didn't hear what that man said to Ioan ! My DD was crying

DigestiveMuncher · 25/09/2017 21:13

I have a feeling he threatened her. Something wasn’t quite right and I think the female detective sensed something.

STRONGandSTABLE · 25/09/2017 21:18

What was the sister's daughter doing taking pills by post?????

Papafran · 25/09/2017 21:19

What was the sister's daughter doing taking pills by post?????

I don't think that's the sister's daughter. Not sure who it is.

mumdebump · 25/09/2017 21:20

Do we know who the girl was taking the pills?
Close to giving up on this - it's been rubbish so far tonight.

STRONGandSTABLE · 25/09/2017 21:24

Sorry - it's not the sister's daughter - I thought I saw the husband/dad before she went to school but it was fleeting ....

DigestiveMuncher · 25/09/2017 21:24

Why are they dragging this out? What is even going on.. so many different story lines that don’t even make sense!! Absolute crock of shit!!!

Divingheadfirst · 25/09/2017 21:25

Struggling with it tonight. Feel like its really dragging on now.

lasketchup · 25/09/2017 21:27

What did the old guy say to him in the pub to make him leave??

InigoTaran · 25/09/2017 21:28

I'm hating this. Don't think it's going to encourage rape victims to come forward. Really irresponsible IMO. Angry

squaresandsquares · 25/09/2017 21:29

He basically was admiting to sexual assault so he left

mumdebump · 25/09/2017 21:34

Giving up on this now and any future series written by the Williams brothers. Life is too short to watch crap.

ChicRock · 25/09/2017 21:36

What a crock of shit this has turned out to be. There only so far I can suspend my disbelief.

AlpacasPackOwls · 25/09/2017 21:38

So he is lying then. And now blackmailing the ex boyfriend too.

OytheBumbler · 25/09/2017 21:42

I'm still hoping for a third party!

DigestiveMuncher · 25/09/2017 21:44

Well it’s 21:43 and I still don’t know who’s lying and who’s telling the truth? Anyone else know? Did I miss something?

SouthWestmom · 25/09/2017 21:45

First time watching this and its crap.
The whole hospital thing fgs.