Weeeeeeuhhhhwooooo! New Dr Who starts 19 September!

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Hooray! Let's hope that this series is better than the last.
Oh look it's Arya Stark! And more Missy!
And PC's hair is madder than ever!
(And I've found the box of exclamation marks!!!!!)
Let's see

I like PC and think he could have been one of my favourite Doctors but the writing just lets it down.
YY, exactly this.

Wow! didn't think id get aggreements, so thanks .

and yes, agree with the stupid sunglasses that would have been perfect for Chris Eccles, but totally wrong for PC.

and yes, agree, PCs the best and perfect for the role but the stories are shite. .

Anyone watching?

CAn someone the last comments Clara made... She asked the doctor when he first thought the thoughts to program the ghost or whatever and then she realised and said 'oh' or something... What did she realise?! Was it that he only realised what to do when she showed him via the phone link? Please explain someone

I think the opening scene had something to do with what Clara said. Bit I don't get it. That the Doctor thought of it in the time of Beethoven?? I'm confused.

He got the idea from doing the same thing with Beethoven I think.

Well one of the 4dc has opted out, one was fiddling with his phone, one was watching and one understood nothing. I didn't really get it - there was a disconnect between the two parts and I totally agree with whoever said that Dr Who dying just doesn't hold any jeopardy.
I do think that it was getting back to being quite straight forward - I think I am alone in hating all the previous tennant and smith stuff about cracks in walls, soldiers, and hiding his home planet etx.

The Beethoven thing was that if Beethoven didn't really exist and the fan copied the music from the future, which then became Beethoven's music, who wrote the music. Not Beethoven, because he didn't exist, and not the fan as he was just copying it. It's one of those timey-whmy paradoxes. The doctor and the ghost doctor was the same principle.
I loved tonight, best in a while, in my opinion. DS3 doesn't think the Vikings look very exciting next week though.

Vikings look like another Robin Hood ...

Quite enjoyed tonight, though it reminded me of the long lamented Ultraviolet episode with Idris Elba.

I didn't really get the bit about Beethoven either.
I am warming to PC this series, they seem to have given him a bit more personality.
I'm hoping the next episode is a bit more kid friendly, DC's haven't been able to watch much so far.

I am a bit disappointed by this season. I watched last season thinking that the writers hadn't got the cadence of PC and that the lines wounded like they were written for MS.

But what happened to the slightly grumpy doctor? What happened to his lightness of touch? It just all feels a bit 'off' to me. He seems so earnest this season. And I hate the bloody sunglasses.

I am off to watch Chris Eccleston - those were great.

I enjoyed the bootstrap paradox.

Can you explain the bootstrap parado please?

In the time it takes me to type it out, you could go on iPlayer and watch the first 45 seconds of the episode.

Or Google it, as Peter Capaldi told you to.

It's a loop with no beginning.

You do something because future-you-in-the-past tells you to do it.

Then you travel to the past.

And you tell past-you-in-the-future to do it.

Because you remember it already happened.

I can't explain it better than it was explained in the episode or better than it is written.

Ok thanks. I did get that part, ish. Youve explained it well enough. And I have googled bootstrap theory but it talks about quantum theory and particles I've never heard of.

Oh and i found an alternate bootstrap theory which is about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and make a success of yourself..

Bootstrap paradox = Harry being able to produce his Patronus because he'd already seen himself do it.

It's named after a short story that refers to that.

The point being that you can't pull yourself up by your own bootstraps - because you are the one pulling. It's an illogical expression.

The DC still love it but I'm getting hacked off with the late start times, if the BBC want this to be 'event' TV for the whole family then they need to show it earlier.

Yes I can record it or we can watch it on catch up but then it is just like all the other 'stuff' we can choose from, rather than the once-a-week-everbody-sits-down-with-a-bowl-of-popcorn thing that we have been doing since series 6.

Or General Hammond writing a note for SG1 to give to him in 1969, because in 1969 he received a note from his older self.

Or David Tennant's Doctor recording the video that talks to Sally Sparrow in Blink, because after she watches it she sees him and gives him the transcript.

Great link trills.

This is what I've been googling!

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrap_model

Now I only did physics to A level but that is beyond me..

saw trailer for next week- Vikings.
may give it a go. Hope its a Mark gattis one, although he should know Vikings didn't have horns on their helmets!