We need to be able to discuss Gaza

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Can MNHQ please allow a forum to discuss Gaza with some clear guidelines on what and what is not considered anti semitic?
Taking these threads down just dumbs down the site completely.

Blimey that’s rude

I haven't seen any hate towards Jews on mumsnet threads

Fake news. Islamaphobic. See other people can do it too.

Have you looked at the current charts or calamities in both regions? 🤔

Reported as hate speech.
Lets try and keep the odd thread going without attacking posters

Some Gazans are Christians my dear.

Good point - I’m not sure if the thread is in site stuff whether you have to report your post or not for MNHQ to see it or whether they are monitoring the thread though? An answer to your point would be very helpful at this point.

I've just listened to a veteran war correspondent who seriously doubts that Hamas would have a missile with the capacity to kill 500 people

This thread kinda illustrates the problem doesn't it- ironically.

Another view is that they don’t want Hamas and Hamas supporting people in their country …. there is actually some corroborating proof to this …. Egypt (who occupied Gaza for a time - people seem keen to eradicate this from their memory banks) suffered hugely from Moslem brotherhood terrorist attacks (Hamas is affiliated to this ‘movement’) and tried to assassinate and overthrow the Jordanian govt when they were accepted into Jordan so they don’t want them. Sorry if that doesn’t sit with your anti Israel anti semitic it’s all the Israelis people fault rhetoric

There are Christians, Druze and Muslims in Israel…..my dear.
Keep it clean
Dont be rude

OK fake news islamaphobic and whatever it is called when you hate Christians too. Congrats you are both, my dear.

He is in danger of war-mongering.

Yes
Posters are getting angry and being very rude.
Why can’t there be a post where what is happening in Gaza at the moment is rationally discussed with news from reliable sources.
No wonder MNHQ keep taking these threads down.

not even israel is claiming that - they are blaming the militarily much weaker PIJ instead!

I love people of all faiths my dear

If people are shouted down for not actively supporting Israel and also being deemed antisemitic for not supporting Israel then I'm glad threads are being shut down. There's no point to them if it's just loads of back and forth if you don't follow the majority view. I can't see how on earth Palestine/Gaza can be discussed without accusations of supporting terrorism somewhere along the line

As this thread in itself shows well enough

Sorry. Let me parrot these lines :

About eight-in-ten (81%) Israeli adults are Jewish, while the remainder are mostly ethnically Arab and religiously Muslim (14%), Christian (2%) or Druze (2%). Overall, the Arab religious minorities in Israel are more religiously observant than Jews.

Ironically the three or four threads that were deleted had much better posts regardless of where they stood, and far fewer insults thrown about. The “must stop misinformation” spiel is basically only successful at one thing - trying to get people to shut up about a certain topic. All the while still leaving mass media news sources to continue spreading half truths or questionable narratives, only now unchallenged.

These are the rockets they had in 2021. They have stuff with a decent range. Mind you Israel is only the size of Wales so they don't need much range really.

If you want to Google what kind of damage they can do that might answer whether they could kill that many people. Though at a guess the rocket probably only needed to hit the courtyard of the hospital in the right place and large chunks of building would fall on top of those in the courtyard. I think possibly people didn't all die from the blast but under rubble caused by the blast.

Sure at some point the true facts will be available or some solid evidence either way.

UAE (which has full diplomatic ties with Israel) appears in no doubt:

#UAE strongly condemns the Israeli attack that targeted Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in the #Gaza Strip resulting in the death and injury of hundreds of people.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs] expresses its deep regret for the loss of life and conveys its condolences to the families of the victims, wishing a swift recovery for all those injured. The Ministry also stressed the need for an immediate cessation of hostilities and to ensure that civilians and civilian institutions are not targeted. The Ministry further underlined the importance of the protection of civilians, according to international humanitarian law, international treaties for the protection of civilians and human rights, and the need to ensure that they are not targeted in conflict. The United Arab Emirates called on the international community to intensify efforts to reach an immediate ceasefire to prevent further loss of life, to avoid further fuelling the situation in the occupied Palestinian territory, and to advance all efforts to achieve a comprehensive and just peace, while preventing the region from being pulled into new levels of violence, tension and instability.

Because Hamas Was created by the “Muslim brotherhood “and this is something that Egypt (sisi) doesn’t want more of.

As for Jordan, they already have to deal with Palestinian refugee camps that they cannot handle anymore

Given the history he’s ( not personally ) Probably feeling just a tad responsible.

The only potentially manageable thing imo would be to have a megathread- everything posted on that one thread and moderated fairly and anything else deleted off the bat.