Hey MNHQ. Would it be possible to have a discussion about how SN issues/threads are handled on the main boards.

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I know you are fire fighting a bit and I'm not trying to stir things up.

I just think that there are endless threads that require you to get involved and try to (for the sake of a better word) mediate between pissed of posters with no real experience of SN/disability and pissed off member of the SN/disability community.

I think you try really really hard to be fair and even handed. It's an understandable response but I have growing doubts about it.
There have been half a dozen threads recently where posters I recognise as living with SN/disability issues deal with a continuous stream of posts from any random who pops up on a thread making the same stupid, ill informed or frankly goady post.
It's like swimming through a tidal wave of shit.
Then, as posters get increasingly exasperated by each arriving poster saying 'well I'm not putting my buggy away if my baby is asleep' or 'why can't I use the disabled toilet if it's empty' or 'but people with SN can be violent. I know of stabbing someone and attacks all the time' they get rude and the thread descends into eurrgh.

I'm still reading constant posts where anyone affected by disability is berated if they are angry, the message being 'be nice, be grateful or we don't have to be fair'

It seems to me that the status quo of 'fairness' is simply unfair.
Posters already dealing with immense difficulty shouldn't be forced to defend themselves against every person who turns up and says unpleasant things under the umbrella of debate. You said a long time ago it was not our responsibility to educate but the reality is that, with no palpable support from you guys, we are endlessly having to educate.

I am not pretending to have the answer but is it possible to contemplate methods by which you could actually say to posters saying 'if someone in a wheelchair can't use their space because I'm not putting my buggy away' that their comments are wrong and not in the spirit of the site?

You link to the This Is My Child campaign but the posters who are the problem won't care and won't read it.

I don't know - I just wonder if you could think about this.
Sometimes there are not two sides to a debate because only one side is directly affected, exhausted, distressed and having their lives and their children's lives made harder.

My nice assessable florist

My excellent non accessible chemist

And newsagents but we shouldn't make a fuss it's "not shops fault" lawyers, suing we are being dramatic! Long as we can get into tescos for bread and gruel be greatful!

I live in west London not tiny village up mountain

Just to add fun even though went slowly across this slope chair wheels swung around on one side nearly slide off curb! V scarey not even wet. Trying reverse back when chair swinging not fun

They are around but I am just getting the we will take a look reply.

Akire that sucks.

Today i am stuck at home. Its ds2's nursery trip, but because it is only one adult per child, i couldnt go as i need dh. They wouldnt even let us follow in the car as we did last year. Meh.

That's rubbish beyond! surely that's discrimination what if your carer was not husband would they see that as fairer? Ie other parents can't complain you have two.

There's another lovely thread just started. Really heavy handed.

Ah ok. So it's just me being actively ignored, then.

Oh great! I'm staying out of it it's only going end badly. queue people sharing "when a disabled person was rude to me stories"

It shows up very clearly at least how the NC facility is abused by people with an agenda.

Given the benefit of the doubt and they're not just a goady fucker having a troll, they're basically saying "I've name changed so people don't associate my usual user name with being a twat who starts threads encouraging others to slag off disabled people"

Bishop I just got the response now after a day or two

:(

I for one am not even going to bother reading that shit. Either it's trolling or it will be full of ignorant offensive comments. not worth bothering about

That's ok. About 30 reports in the past 48 hours...

Well I've reported.

Yet to see any implementation of the "new" anti disablist policy from MNHQ.

Yes. That thread is crying out for it.

The new policy seemed to last a day.

I have also reported.

I do like jason's sad face strategy though

apparently my sad face button is stuck.

I don't like the repeated sad face, tbh . I find it irritating. Not as irritating as the damn thread though!

i changed the face for you.

Ok am switching from app to mobile site, hang on

Defo more appropriate symbol than sad face 💩💩💩💩💩💩

Pain in the arse is I have to come out of the app and into safari to do it.

So new disablist policy involves ignoring reports, yes? Leaving personal attacks for at least 15 hours?

Not much different from the old one, then.

Interesting prioritising of what to delete on that thread.

We are deleted for being sceptical yet someone can advocate telling a woman with a disability to fuck off and call her a cunt for wanting to use disabled changing room.

Disgusted by that, HQ, if you are even reading this thread.