Hey MNHQ. Would it be possible to have a discussion about how SN issues/threads are handled on the main boards.

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I know you are fire fighting a bit and I'm not trying to stir things up.

I just think that there are endless threads that require you to get involved and try to (for the sake of a better word) mediate between pissed of posters with no real experience of SN/disability and pissed off member of the SN/disability community.

I think you try really really hard to be fair and even handed. It's an understandable response but I have growing doubts about it.
There have been half a dozen threads recently where posters I recognise as living with SN/disability issues deal with a continuous stream of posts from any random who pops up on a thread making the same stupid, ill informed or frankly goady post.
It's like swimming through a tidal wave of shit.
Then, as posters get increasingly exasperated by each arriving poster saying 'well I'm not putting my buggy away if my baby is asleep' or 'why can't I use the disabled toilet if it's empty' or 'but people with SN can be violent. I know of stabbing someone and attacks all the time' they get rude and the thread descends into eurrgh.

I'm still reading constant posts where anyone affected by disability is berated if they are angry, the message being 'be nice, be grateful or we don't have to be fair'

It seems to me that the status quo of 'fairness' is simply unfair.
Posters already dealing with immense difficulty shouldn't be forced to defend themselves against every person who turns up and says unpleasant things under the umbrella of debate. You said a long time ago it was not our responsibility to educate but the reality is that, with no palpable support from you guys, we are endlessly having to educate.

I am not pretending to have the answer but is it possible to contemplate methods by which you could actually say to posters saying 'if someone in a wheelchair can't use their space because I'm not putting my buggy away' that their comments are wrong and not in the spirit of the site?

You link to the This Is My Child campaign but the posters who are the problem won't care and won't read it.

I don't know - I just wonder if you could think about this.
Sometimes there are not two sides to a debate because only one side is directly affected, exhausted, distressed and having their lives and their children's lives made harder.

"We're sure no offence was meant" is very close in tone to "oh, I don't mean you", isn't it?

Because the post in question is making fun of two groups, one of which is people who explain that some unwanted behaviours can be explained by dx including autism, ADHD, LDs, etc. Making fun, in fact, of people trying to increase awareness of such conditions.

Making fun of anyone who isn't in on the joke is offensive by definition, full stop.

I'm the first to try to find an innocent motive, but sometimes there isn't one. It might not be actively malicious, just thoughtless.

i checked out that post
it was disablist. and I dont live in that part of the sn world.

Another one. I've screenshot to save having to c&p loads of different things... (Or post loads of posts to make sure i dont lose anything!)

"Hello Beyond, We've checked out the poster and there's no imflamatory posts in the past, We are going to let this one slide. But do keep reporting"

MNHQ.

Ah, perhaps, but i was asked last night to report again if anything similar came up, so.... :)

At least this EU stuff means that Disablist comments have been replaced with ageist ones.

What does PTB stand for? The poster who wrote the comments yesterday about every problem being explained away by someone being autistic is saying that all she said is .... so she obviously didn't get an explanation that she was disabilist and that the PTB don't get her.

Sorry. Googled, Powers That Be PTB. I read Precious Third Born

i wondered what that meant
what a troll

Im out fuck mn
the idea that some wanker could take the piss about a 14 yr old in nappies (ahh but its a joke thread)
fuck that ITS MY FUCKING LIFE.
so nothing to do with the referendum. but all to do with the disablist wankers

alamityjam Sat 25-Jun-16 21:49:13
AIBU? My 14 year old son is still in nappies, he doesn't have any additional needs or anything but we are practising baby led toilet training and he tells me that he can't be arsed to shit in the bog yet. His high school teachers are kicking up a fuss about changing his nappies, but it is surely his right to shit where he wants and there is plenty of time yet. It's not like he will be going to uni in nappies fgs.

SO FUNNY NOT SO WHERE IS MN HQ??
im gone

Samcro that's dreadful when was it reported? How can that even be funny?

I tihnk it's gone now thankfully.

I'll post what ever you want for you

It actually reads like a direct dig at a poster in Primary education

Directly making fun of this poster isn't it?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/primary/2664102-The-school-are-pushing-insisting-on-underpants

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Well said fuckincuntbuggerinarse. I really struggle with insult wrapped up as humour. I just can't find it funny when the humour leaves someone out of the joke.

Its real nasty playground bullying and unfortunately when called out on behaviour even by MNHQ some of the posters are just 'oh they don't get my humour' and belittling the rather light handed first method of containing talk. We do seam to need a much stronger strikes system to clamp down on this.