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Husbands, masturbation & paranoia......

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ParanoidWife · 05/01/2004 21:40

DH and I always had a great sex life pre DD but things have certainly slowed down since her birth, due to my sex drive dying a rapid and almost complete death (sex reduced to once a month MAX). Our DD is now a happy healthy toddler and only recently has the physical side of our marriage picked up a little, we have had sex twice this week and DH has orgasmed 3 times (once via non penetrative contact IYSWIM). I know DH still has sexual urges, his sex drive is fairly average.

I am learning to drive and I have a couple of one hour lessons per week. A few weeks ago I came home from a lesson and DH was in the bath. I popped into the spare room for a sneaky 5 mins on MN and there was something on the desk, it was clearly semen. I checked the history and the temp internet files on the pc and they had all been wiped clean (DH is in IT). DH got out of the bath and came into the spare room to say hello. When he got in I jokily said 'you need to get yourself a better towel, next time' (or something to that effect). He said 'what are you on about ?!' I pointed to the fluid on the desk and looked at him quizzically. He denied it was semen or that he even knew what it was and how it got there. I KNEW he way lying so I calmly turned off the pc and went downstairs DH came down and admitted that it was semen and that he had been masturbating to images on the internet. I told him that I would prefer it if he wasn't so secretve about it as it makes me think that there is more to it (ie is he cheating on me in chat rooms etc). He said he understood that I would feel insecure and I asked him to not delete the addresses off our PC in future (we share our own private profile so kids wouldn't ever get access to it). He agreed.

Anyway, I had another lesson tonight, we had an hour together (in front of the tv) and he went out to his sports club. Naturally I came in here to go on MN when he left. I checked the history and sure enough he'd been downloading mpegs with titles like 'mouthf*ck' and 'dirty double penetration'. At least he'd kept the history.

My point is that I've lost a lot of confidence in my body/sexual attractiveness since childbirth. DH does his best to reassure me, and sometimes I even believe him. Then I find out that he is w*nking over leggy slim blondes and it all goes out of the window I know that it is all fantasy but part of me can't help thinking that he'd rather be with them than me, the thought makes me feel physically ill.

Looking at the properties on history I can see that I was barely out of the door before he was up here with his pants down

I don't want to deny him his right to do whatever he pleases with his own body in his own time, but how can I feel better about it ? How do I convince myself that his masturbation bears little or no relation to me ? Is that even true ?

Thanks
An embarrassed regular Mumsnetter

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ParanoidWife · 07/01/2004 10:50

The whole 'video thing' is a bit of a grey area. DH has a few videos which are gathering dust in the bottom of our wardrobe. The main 'theme' running through them is anal sex (it is SUCH a predictable man thing), and to me seeing that is a bit too much like watching a medical experiment ICK !

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M2T · 07/01/2004 10:53

There you go PW - You got a good shag out of it. Things looking up (literally ) already!!

ThomCat · 07/01/2004 10:59

oh PW - that's great. I'm SO pleased. Bless you!

It's so funny actually I actually went home last night and asked DP how many times he w**ked and chatted to him about it general for the first time!!! See what you've started!

So with you on videos on anal sex, uggghh! I mean each to his own in the bedroom, but I would never want to watch that, ick!

ParanoidWife · 07/01/2004 11:06

It just LOOKS so vile on film

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notatroll · 07/01/2004 11:08

I have changed my name because I am a regular and don't want to give too much detail

But I have been in similar position when PG, DH was downloading what appeared to be Trailer Trash Sluts take it up the rear and was shocked!

however, as with all fantasy, it has to be so so very different from reality or it wouldn't be fulfilling its purpose I.E. the other, the unattainable, the forbidden thrill, the polar opposite of what is available (or not when DW is hugely PG)

And I have to say, give anal a try, go gently and get lots and lots of foreplay first and you could be in for a treat!

codswallop · 07/01/2004 11:12

LOl at trilaer trach sluts....

why oh why do men like this?
Lol

notatroll · 07/01/2004 11:16

It is most peculiar, their attraction for those kinds of women

And yes anal does look vile on those films, but unless you are immensely supple, YOU will never get to see the business end. And you don't let them go at in hammer and tongs, just slip it in for the grand finale.

ParanoidWife · 07/01/2004 11:21

We did have a fairly active and unconventional (?) sex life pre-DD, of which anal sex was an integral part. However, I suffered a horrible fissure as a result of a rapid-fire birth and so that was off the menu for months and months (and months). I found that I no longer wanted to do it that way even when I had healed over, it just didn't 'feel right'.

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M2T · 07/01/2004 11:23

No way... that's a one way passage in my body.

codswallop · 07/01/2004 11:23

I am sorry. yuck - that ensds for shit and piles Imo

handlemecarefully · 07/01/2004 11:24

notatroll,

Yuck, yuck, yuck though - in the same orifice that produces faeces? Good for you and I'm not judging you at all, but for me that alone (the 'poo factor' would put me off!

handlemecarefully · 07/01/2004 11:25

Didn't mean to put a wink in there!

ParanoidWife · 07/01/2004 11:26

So long as you are clean and, ahem, 'fully evacuated', it is fine. Nowadays the thought makes me feel VERY self-conscious.

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notatroll · 07/01/2004 11:26

you can see why I changed my name, can't you

M2T · 07/01/2004 11:29

Unless you get an enema how can you be sure you are totally "evacuated"???
I know a couple that tried it and didn't use a lubricant or anything and were stuck together in agony until he lost his ....ahem.... erection.

ParanoidWife · 07/01/2004 11:33

I would imagine that in that situation he lost his stiffy fairly rapidly !

True enough that you cannot be 100% sure on the poo front but, hey, it's a risk you take ! Christ knows why I'm defending it, the idea makes me go all odd now !

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handlemecarefully · 07/01/2004 11:33

Awww but notatroll - there was no need to change your name. We would still love you despite your deeply perverted and shameful sexual practices (joking!)

Dadslib · 07/01/2004 11:34

Message withdrawn

notatroll · 07/01/2004 11:34

Stay on the Dark Side with me PW!

ParanoidWife · 07/01/2004 11:37

Keeping schtum from now on !

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aloha · 07/01/2004 11:43

I personally don't like porn. I don't like the industry, I don't like the exploitation and I really don't like the misogyny - "Do you want my big cock, bitch" - lovely. There is evidence that men who use lots of porn do think more negatively about their partner's attractiveness and does encourage men to want more aggressive sex - sorry but there is. This will not apply to all men obviously and some women also like porn. I think masturbation is normal and healthy and I've never seen a thread on mumsnet that was anti-masturbation unless it was deliberately at the expense of a real life sex life. I too would be very upset if my dh was downloading woman-hating pornography and masturbating over it in our child's room. I don't think it's a matter of 'tough' if the marriage is good. I think people who are married to each other do stop doing things that really upset the other partner or at least negotiate. If you both like porn and have a great sex life that is clearly absolutely OK. If not, then maybe some negotiating needs to happen.

notatroll · 07/01/2004 11:47

Very Succinct as always Alhoa, although it is a little hard to present the other side of porn use without sounding like Andrea Dworkin.

PW, hope you can come to a happy finish, you do sound a little Premenstrual, IME, but also sound like a woman with a healthy sex life all things being equal.

Oh god how many offensive things have I said in this post.? Sorry, the thrill of anonymity has eroded my sensitive side.

Good bye forever from notatroll

ParanoidWife · 07/01/2004 11:49

See ya, notatroll !

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aloha · 07/01/2004 11:50

I take a slightly smaller size in dungarees than Andrea Dworkin

ParanoidWife · 07/01/2004 11:54

Tee-hee !

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