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Husbands, masturbation & paranoia......

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ParanoidWife · 05/01/2004 21:40

DH and I always had a great sex life pre DD but things have certainly slowed down since her birth, due to my sex drive dying a rapid and almost complete death (sex reduced to once a month MAX). Our DD is now a happy healthy toddler and only recently has the physical side of our marriage picked up a little, we have had sex twice this week and DH has orgasmed 3 times (once via non penetrative contact IYSWIM). I know DH still has sexual urges, his sex drive is fairly average.

I am learning to drive and I have a couple of one hour lessons per week. A few weeks ago I came home from a lesson and DH was in the bath. I popped into the spare room for a sneaky 5 mins on MN and there was something on the desk, it was clearly semen. I checked the history and the temp internet files on the pc and they had all been wiped clean (DH is in IT). DH got out of the bath and came into the spare room to say hello. When he got in I jokily said 'you need to get yourself a better towel, next time' (or something to that effect). He said 'what are you on about ?!' I pointed to the fluid on the desk and looked at him quizzically. He denied it was semen or that he even knew what it was and how it got there. I KNEW he way lying so I calmly turned off the pc and went downstairs DH came down and admitted that it was semen and that he had been masturbating to images on the internet. I told him that I would prefer it if he wasn't so secretve about it as it makes me think that there is more to it (ie is he cheating on me in chat rooms etc). He said he understood that I would feel insecure and I asked him to not delete the addresses off our PC in future (we share our own private profile so kids wouldn't ever get access to it). He agreed.

Anyway, I had another lesson tonight, we had an hour together (in front of the tv) and he went out to his sports club. Naturally I came in here to go on MN when he left. I checked the history and sure enough he'd been downloading mpegs with titles like 'mouthf*ck' and 'dirty double penetration'. At least he'd kept the history.

My point is that I've lost a lot of confidence in my body/sexual attractiveness since childbirth. DH does his best to reassure me, and sometimes I even believe him. Then I find out that he is w*nking over leggy slim blondes and it all goes out of the window I know that it is all fantasy but part of me can't help thinking that he'd rather be with them than me, the thought makes me feel physically ill.

Looking at the properties on history I can see that I was barely out of the door before he was up here with his pants down

I don't want to deny him his right to do whatever he pleases with his own body in his own time, but how can I feel better about it ? How do I convince myself that his masturbation bears little or no relation to me ? Is that even true ?

Thanks
An embarrassed regular Mumsnetter

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ParanoidWife · 06/01/2004 14:51

Somehow his covert 'tugs' seem so much more sordid than any of my private fumblings IYSWIM. Double standards I know, but then I also know that DH would be MORTIFIED and hurt if I used movies/pictures full of blokes with muscles and enormous cocks sticking up all over the place. The PC is in one of our other kids rooms. The thought of him pulling himself off in our DS's room is almost too much to bear

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StressyHead · 06/01/2004 14:53

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ParanoidWife · 06/01/2004 14:56

DS wasn't in the house at the time (if I say anymore I will blow my thin veil of cover). Incidentally, there is NO WAY that any of our kids could get access to this material as we have XP and our 'profile' is passworded for security.

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Festivefly · 06/01/2004 14:56

He might not do it there and then, just look and save it for the shower

princessinapeartree · 06/01/2004 15:00

pw this isn't about how you look (admit it - does your dh have a bod like david beckham? No? Funny, that. and do you love him any less for it?). It is about how you feel - so you have to work on feeling sexy, which I'm sure you are, and I'm sure he thinks you are. My dh is COMPLETELY blind to my wobbly bits even though I'm 2 stone heavier than when we first met (granted, I did have an eating disorder then but still ). All he sees of what I consider to be acres of lardy flesh is the fact that my tits are bigger. WHich he is delighted with.
So don't be so hard on yourself, and try and get yourself back into the mood - you'll feel much better about yourself, he will probably sit on the computer a bit less, and once your sex life is up and running it will also be easier for you and him to have a conversation about how you feel about his porn useage

StressyHead · 06/01/2004 15:00

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M2T · 06/01/2004 15:02

Paranoid Wife - Ah.... but women are less likely to use porn material and more likely to use our fantastic imaginations. Men prefer something visual to stimulate them in most cases.

LOL @ covert tugs!

ParanoidWife · 06/01/2004 15:03

Festive, that is a very hygenic thought but the fact that he saves a shortcut to the desktop whilst the mpeg loads and then sends the link to recycle bin within 20 mins (according to the records on my pc, anyway) suggests to me that he is using it in a 'live' sort of a way IYSWIM.

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Twinkie · 06/01/2004 15:04

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ParanoidWife · 06/01/2004 15:06

On the upside, I've heard glandular fever can cause weight loss

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CountessDracula · 06/01/2004 15:08

Hmmm, it did until I bought a pound of Thorntons fudge the other day and ate the lot in 2 days

ParanoidWife · 06/01/2004 15:09

Sex, when we do it, feels mechanical and a bit 'scripted' IYSWIM. Not due to a lack of skills on DH's part but down to a lack of enthuasiam or desire on mine. I do still fancy him etc, and have no desire to have sex with anyone else but things just seem to be getting worse in the bedroom. Christ, my marriage is a fucking disaster

Sorry for the language

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ParanoidWife · 06/01/2004 15:11

The stupid thing is that one of the things that really turns me on in a sexual situation is dirty talk, but DH just finds it embarrasingly cringesome to do, poor lamb.

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ParanoidWife · 06/01/2004 15:11

I'll stop now 'cos the more I type, the more my sanity unravels

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Twinkie · 06/01/2004 15:12

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ParanoidWife · 06/01/2004 15:13

I try, but DH just pumps away in stunned silence ! It doesn't really work when I'm just sat there rambling on to myself !

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StressyHead · 06/01/2004 15:14

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M2T · 06/01/2004 15:14

Paranoidwife - I don't think your marriage is a disaster!!! I think you are having a slight lull in the bedroom department. GOD I can relate to that!

He finds talking dirty cringesome, yet can look at website with THOSE titles???? I think you should point that out to him.

ParanoidWife · 06/01/2004 15:15

Things aren't great.

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ParanoidWife · 06/01/2004 15:17

I know, it's laughable M2T. You should hear some of the Hollywood crap the women on his videos and these mpegs come out with, the blokes are also hugely ridiculous (D'ya want this big cock, bitch?!' Umm, not really, no) but it doesn't seem to distract him in a masturbation scenario.

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Twinkie · 06/01/2004 15:17

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Twinkie · 06/01/2004 15:19

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ThomCat · 06/01/2004 15:19

OMG - Right how about putting a ban on the internet porn, esp as it's in your childs room - and how about you buying him some magazines?

I had to buy the whole of the top shelf in a newsagents once for reserach at work. It was awful but I just acted brazen, walked in. didn't look, just took one of everything and stood head held high in the queue to pay!!!!! You have to laugh really.

Would that make you feel better if it was mags not the internet?
I hope that might work for you both.
If you explain that you hate the idea of him doing 'that' in 'there' then he might relent and confine it to mags in your bedroom, then you might get to enjoy the silly stories as well!

ParanoidWife · 06/01/2004 15:20

Perhaps a weekend away is a good idea, childcare isn't easy though, as we have very a fragmented family.

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flamingo · 06/01/2004 15:21

In your DS's room? I think you would be quite justified in complaining loudly about that!

Do try and treat yourself somehow to feel better about how you look. But I suspect you'll find wiggly tummy or no, you look considerably more gorgeous than any porn star (not really a great career to make you look gorgeous, plus fake tits are just much more hideous than tummy stretchmarks). By the sound of the names of the stuff he was downloading, he's not that bothered about what abs anyway!

Just my gut (no pun intended) opinion, but I'm not convinced anyone in the throes of passion really looks that closely. As long as you act sexy, you are sexy. Interesting to know if DL would agree with this - I know he's described his dw as a sexy latin type before and I suspect if she acted that way again he's be in there like a shot.