The Archers spoilers thread #8: Can't wait for 7.02pm? Join us here!

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Spoilers thread for The Archers. Please keep all spoiler-related discussion in this thread and do not spill the beans on the main Archers Thread. Last spoilers thread here: www.mumsnet.com/talk/radio_addicts/4197199--The-Archers-spoilers-thread-7-Cant-wait-for-7-02pm-Join-us-here

Current main Archers thread here: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/radio_addicts/4887688-archers-thread-153-total-absolute-rubbish-but-we-keep-on-listening-hoping-for-better-things-its-the-hope-that-kills-you-discuss-the-archers-here?latest=1 The main thread tends to last a few weeks. The spoiler thread runs for around a year, but I strongly suspect it gets read about as much as the main thread.

Thanks, @MTistheDB . I find myself thinking 'Why do you listen if you hate the characters, acting and storylines?'

There have been several occasions when I've felt personally attacked on there, and via PM, which is a bit much for a thread discussing a Radio 4 soap opera.

I’m so sorry that that was your experience @MTistheDB and @WhoppingBigBackside. The main thread isn’t quite as aggy as it has been, but it’s still not as cosy as it used to be. It’s such a shame.

@TherapistInATabard , I've just had a look at the latest page and it's not exactly brimming with positivity. I hope Angrybaby makes a swift recovery.

I think Lilian will get a phone call from Shula this evening.

This is the spoiler thread, but if it also functions as a smaller, cosier space for discussing The Archers, where some people feel happier continuing to chat, that has to be a good thing. I don't see undue negativity on the main thread. The programme is not going through a Golden Age, in my view [understatement], so I wouldn't expect to see lots of BOOPs at the moment. This week is better than last week and I think that's probably down to Keri Davies being this week's writer.

I have just noticed: the BBC spoiler for yesterday was
"04 Dec Justin goes too far, and Clarrie reaches the end of her tether."

I can understand that Clarrie was heard losing it; but how was ringing up Shula "going too far"?

Well, it was done purely to shop Fagash and scupper her plans, entirely for his own benefit. It's not as though Justin and Shula are "friends" who keep in touch. I would be fairly irritated if my partner phoned one of my relatives - my sister, for example - purely to get me into trouble. In real life, stuff like that rarely pans out well.

Come back, Tiger, with a new identity and an impenetrable (except by Lil) disguise, and get your minions to dispose of Justin!

Yes, today we learned that Lilian thinks he went too far. Yesterday, all he did was ring Shula to try to find out what was actually going on. Which if his and Shula's money is involved, which it is, I think maybe just maybe he would be entitled to do?

And if I were Shula I would be very glad to have been given a heads-up before Lilian spent half a million quid or so on buying something my business didn't need; it's even worse than Stella casually spending £150,000 on a piece of kit Home Farm didn't actually need and she'd been told not to buy.

Arf! I did wonder who Lilian thought was going to pay for it. Justin, possibly? Or (in my dreams) Tiger, funded by his drug-money-laundering Colombian partners.

I just find everything about Justin so very tedious. But that aside, yesterday, to my ears, he made that call purely out of malice. He doesn't care a fig for Shula or her interests. He just doesn't want Mad Fagash bidding the price up.

Not a spoiler but the actress who played Julia Pargetter was Prudie in the1970s Poldark.

Wonder what Lillian's shocking news will be.

Mystery buyer - as Joy is in the cast list next week, Rochelle? <clutches straws>

She was brilliant as Prudie, loved the original series.

Or Joy herself?

The mystery buyer will be Miles

Why, though?

From what we’ve heard he can barely manage his own farm. Why would he want land in Ambridge?

Unless Rob left instructions to buy Ambridge land for his son? Though it would be incredibly strange, I am wondering what the continuing ‘nightmare’ for Helen might entail. Perhaps it’s that?

Because it is what Rob would have wanted, innit.
And to prolong the agony for Hellin.

BBC One-Liners
10 Dec Lynda proves a friend indeed, and Justin makes the most of his situation.
11 Dec Alice faces a big decision, and old wounds open for Ian.
12 Dec Lily has something to look forward to, and Stella makes an impression.
13 Dec Life gets complicated for Paul, while Leonard offers the benefit of experience.
14 Dec Lilian makes a dramatic statement, and it’s an anxious day for Adam.
15 Dec Alice takes a gamble, and David faces a difficult memory.

Credits
Sun 10/12/2023, Mon 11/12/2023, Tue 12/12/2023, Wed 13/12/2023, Thu 14/12/2023, Fri 15/12/2023
Writer, Sarah McDonald Hughes
Director, Jeremy Howe
Editor, Jeremy Howe
Brian Aldridge: Charles Collingwood
Ben Archer: Ben Norris
David Archer: Timothy Bentinck
Pip Archer: Daisy Badger
Tony Archer: David Troughton
Lilian Bellamy: Sunny Ormonde
Leonard Berry: Paul Copley
Alice Carter: Hollie Chapman
Harry Chilcott: Jack Ashton
Ian Craig: Stephen Kennedy
Justin Elliott: Simon Williams
Jakob Hakansson: Paul Venables
Joy Horville: Jackie Lye
Paul Mack: Joshua Riley
Adam Macy: Andrew Wincott
Freddie Pargetter: Toby Lawrence
Lily Pargetter: Katie Redford
Stella Pryor: Lucy Speed
Lynda Snell OBE: Carole Boyd

Radio Times Ambridge Diary 10th – 15th December 2023
The fallout from the Grange Farm auction causes an icy atmosphere between Justin and Lilian. Lynda and Tony offer comfort, but a fuming Lilian makes a dramatic announcement.
Alice wrestles over coming clean with Harry - how will the tall, dark horseman react?
Adam and Ian are haunted by the past when Xander lands a role in the Christmas show.
Pip has a big question for Stella, and Joy is surprised by an invitation.
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+

Daily Mail has not yet come to hand, again. Sigh. And it's raining...

Lynda takes in Lilian and Ruby when Justin starts to cut up rough? And Paul discovers that his mum and dad have split up and he's lumbered with sleeping on the sofa for the indefinite future?

Thanks Asking. i don't have a TV either.
Xander will be the innkeeper and he'll have been named 'Sid Perks'.
Lynda will show friendship towards her step-grandson's paternal grandmother.
Alice will tell Harry that she has had a drink problem. He'll need to think about it.
Denise will look for alternative lodgings.

Helen has a spare room.
Has Hannah moved in with Stella?
Is The World's First Lesbian about to propose?

Why don't Tom'n'Tash build a house on Bridge Farm land? Opportunity for a guest cameo from a chap called Kevin. Baby Kevin Archer will turn up when Tom, Tash & Twins manage to wrangle a £1.25 mil out of Peggy to get the job finished

Daily Mail - very brief...

Fuming Lilian speaks up and Alice decides she must be honest with Harry about her past.

That's it!

Thanks. I didn't go out, and if that's all there was I'm glad I didn't.

Joking aside, what on earth is the Xander Christmas show thing going to be? I’d like Denise to move in with Joy 😄

A traditional Nativity and they start thinking about the circumstances of his birth, or similar? I can't remember anything traumatic about the Lexi surrogacy, but then I have done my best to block all of that out, as I am totally opposed to surrogacy.

I don't imagine the SWs are about to take us into the surrogacy debate though....

Oh please let it be something to do with Adam's several dalliances.... although I can't see how!

• into the actual arguments of the surrogacy debate

Good thinking, Jangly! Charlie or Pawel resurfaces at the preschool Nativity?

Adam has had just those two dalliances, one of which never led to more than a drunken kiss and the other of which was a one-nighter. I don't think two=many!