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Prepping for internet outage, AI disaster, cyber attacks etc

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Prepwithmum · 14/09/2026 12:42

With all the news of AI escaping, possible Russian cyber attacks and disabling the Internet, is anyone else doing more now to prepare for near term SHTF. I don't mean all out death and destruction but the interim period where things like the banking system might fail or communication outages.

I always keep a little bit of cash at home, is anyone considering having a bigger stash? If so, how much?

How will you keep in touch with love ones if the systems go down?

I'm always stocked up with food and water, a few torches and not much else. What else should I consider?

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Schlossadler · 17/09/2026 06:08

RedToothBrush · 15/09/2026 18:27

Saudi Arabia and Yemen actually.

The Iran situation was largely manageable until the Yemenis hit the east-west bypass for the Strait of Hormuz. Then hit a bunch of other Saudi facilities and then finally the port of Yanbu (yes the name kills me every time), where there was a refinery and storage facilities.

They DID have 5 to 7 days of supply there which would have helped.

Now they don't. So the Saudis have cancelled a number of European orders due to arrive at the end of September/ beginning of October today.

The Saudis had said they would repair the pipe quickly. However it's since been attacked in multiple places, is vulnerable to other attacks and they don't have the parts to get all the pumping stations back to full capacity. So it's going to take a while.

On top of that you have civil unrest in Syria now, because the government had put up fuel prices. Syria matters because Iraq who had put up the largest increase in production was putting out their oil by road via Syria. Iraq was also the launching place (by Iranian aligned military) for at least one of the attacks on Saudi Arabia.

Going by road through Syria (if the Saudis had anything that is still functioning) would be one option (though they'd have to do some diplomacy). Except now unrest. Makes it more complex and expensive.

So it's now not all about Iran but wider instabilities in the Middle East. There's a lack of grasp on this. Oil markets needed stability. That's gone. God knows for how long.

Add to this refining capacity world wide for diesel. The US is currently operating at max capacity. Then one of their bigger refineries broke down yesterday. That's going to have an impact. The diesel they do import comes from (and you will like this) Canada. Today the US said it was considering banning exports of diesel.

Now the UK refines 50% of our diesel. The majority of the rest comes from the Netherlands. With some coming from the US and the remainder from the Middle East. But Europe has an overall lack of capacity. So basically when we run out of reserves (which have been lower due to the situation already) we start to have a problem because there's ultimately going to be shortages world wide. That means huge price spikes.

What do we use diesel for? Trains, tractors and trucks. These are kinda crucial.

This is without talking about the fertiliser crisis which is now already baked into next year's yields. Saudi was one of the biggest exports to Europe and North Africa. This spells famine for some. That spells more unrest elsewhere. That spells already problems.

So yeah.

I'm alarmed at how low it currently is on the news cycle. It should be higher.

It will get higher, especially with that Saudi news today.

Gas reserves across Europe are much lower than they should be too. Hence massive prices. 20% + on the Energy Price cap come Jan is what Martin Lewis is saying. So budget for this NOW.

If we get a warm winter it will likely be wet and cause flooding cos El Nino so I'm not sure that's a curse or a blessing if there's issues already.

This all means Burnham's budget plans are likely all going to go out the window and there's a high chance we'll be back into another crisis management situation. I really hope not but I've been watching this develop over the last two weeks with increasing concerns.

As for AI? AI is an energy eating monster... Energy eating monsters + fuel crisis? Perhaps isn't the combination that suggests we are all going to die in six months.

I'm far more worried about more concrete and old skool issues at this point personally

There's also not a huge amount we can do to prepare for this type of disruption. Battery packs, torches, food you can eat cold if god forbid we do get as deep as rolling blackouts (which they've been suggesting are possible for a couple of years), solar panels, more supplies in the house if we can't get to the shops as regularly/ there's less stock on the shelves due to shortages. But there's really limits.

Keeping in mind that the Red Sea is now effectively a pinch point for any shipping going through from China to Europe due to the Yemenis (Shein and Temu just got a lot more expensive and delivery times longer).

Oh and I've not mentioned how the Russians keep targeting power stations in the EU have I? Nor petrol stations in Ukraine so they are going to need support with energy too.

Yeah. A right fucking mess. You probably have already notices prices of petrol go up this week. That's going to feed inflation.

Yeah. Big squeeze one way or another I suspect.

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Just to say that your posts are excellent.

A lot of them jive with what I see.

GentleSheep · 17/09/2026 07:36

The Irish Republic have just started giving out an emergency preparedness booklet to all residents, not quite up to the standard of the other European ones I've seen!

https://assets.gov.ie/static/documents/749e8ee7/JAV16262_OEP_Preparedness_Campaign_Accessible_EN_V4_Web.pdf

wannabeCali · 17/09/2026 14:36

100PercentEndurance · 14/09/2026 20:09

Oh lordy, what if we lose PERMANENT access to our bank accounts!?

Like in the beginning of Handmaids Tale . . .

Things could get very rough, very quickly.

As long as we also lose permanently our mortgage, im fine!! 😂😂

More seriously (and i think i can only post this question here without being thought of as a complete loony) but has anyone thought of getting a little device to scramble waves? Perhaps i have watched too many black mirrors but i wonder if say drones or electronic dogs came about then a scrambler might be useful??
or is this OTT?

GentleSheep · 17/09/2026 16:06

wannabeCali · 17/09/2026 14:36

As long as we also lose permanently our mortgage, im fine!! 😂😂

More seriously (and i think i can only post this question here without being thought of as a complete loony) but has anyone thought of getting a little device to scramble waves? Perhaps i have watched too many black mirrors but i wonder if say drones or electronic dogs came about then a scrambler might be useful??
or is this OTT?

😂Not a bad idea! You mean if they're after you for nefarious purposes? I have decided I'm good as AI couldn't recognise my face compared to my passport, so I reckon ageing is the best protection! 😅(I was trying to register with an online bank but failed!) 😂

But yeah I wouldn't post that question on AIBU or else you'll get the standard 'you need help with your mental health OP' ! 😂

100PercentEndurance · 17/09/2026 17:38

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 16/09/2026 09:35

I've starting printing out the Internet, just in case. There's a surprising amount of information and pictures in it. In fact I've just run out of paper and I had bought five reams from Rymans - clearly not enough, as I am still on AARDVARK.

lol

ThaneOfGlamis · 17/09/2026 19:04

I'm pretty sure my kids would think that youtube down is worse than zombies. From a practical side, I don't like to keep much cash at home, so would just have to hope the food we have in would last us for a while.

Thank you for the brilliant summary of oil issues @RedToothBrush . Lots of food for thought there.

chapter26again · 17/09/2026 19:38

We have a generator with plenty of fuel, logs for the burner, cash in the safe, enough tinned & dry food, drinking water, meds and pet food for 6-8 weeks. I have never been a “prepper” I stocked up on precisely nothing during Covid, but the recent government “el Nino” message rang as bullshit for me.
We also now live in the arse end of nowhere so it’s not unusual for me to keep a stock of things.

FindingMeno · 18/09/2026 22:05

Water:
Bottled water - 3 days
Filtering material
Water carriers
Water purification tablets

Food:
shelf stable and dry - a week

Heat:
Open fire
Logs and coal
Firelighters, lighters and matches
Blankets
Hand warmers and feet warmers
Survival blankets

Cooking and boiling water:
Camping stove and gas cylinders
Firepit
Charcoal bbq
Camping kettle, stainless steel pans and frying pan
Large capacity thermos

Lighting:
Lots of batteries
Candles, matches, lighters
Headtorches
Lanterns

Health and hygiene:
First aid kits and training
Basic meds
Loo roll and baby wipes
Multi surface wipes
Hand sanitiser
Basic toiletries and laundry supplies

Communication:
Solar charger
Powerbank
Hand crank radio

This is where I'm at.
Anything missing?
I would like to get some hot water bottles, and a fireproof file for documents, but can't think of anything else ( within reason)

GentleSheep · 18/09/2026 22:55

Well I'm wondering what we're all going to do with, ahem, human waste products if we can't flush our loos. Could be problematic depending where you live. I once had to collect 24 hrs' worth of wee and it was 2.2 litres! So that's a fair bit to throw out and of course it'll kill your grass/plants. Ugh. We do live close to woodland so that's an option but what if you live in a flat? Even suburban it's a nightmare.

FindingMeno · 18/09/2026 23:21

You can get buckets with loo seats.
If you line it with a plastic bag you can use sawdust or cat litter in it to absorb liquid.
Then double bag and bin, or if there's no bin collections, empty into a deep dug hole.
That's what I would do if I didn't have water to flush the loo with a bucket.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/09/2026 00:52

This whole mess makes me very glad to have a lot of Huel stored up.

Whilst I miss him so much it hurts, CatOfHate at least cannot be hurt by shortages and power cuts.

springhasspringed · 19/09/2026 01:07

GentleSheep · 17/09/2026 07:36

The Irish Republic have just started giving out an emergency preparedness booklet to all residents, not quite up to the standard of the other European ones I've seen!

https://assets.gov.ie/static/documents/749e8ee7/JAV16262_OEP_Preparedness_Campaign_Accessible_EN_V4_Web.pdf

Thanks for that. How do I find out how to turn off the gas? I know where my fuse box is, guess I turn electricity off there. Only gas I have is for heating and hot water from the boiler. I'm in a housing association flat, never needed to turn the gas off before.

I'm still prepping. Bought a battery powered lantern today. I have 10 litres of water, food for about 3 days so far, will keep buying bits and pieces. I've packed an emergency go bag with clothes and medication. I still need to find my power bank and also to write down telephone numbers.

Otterliee · 19/09/2026 01:16

This is horrifying.

My DD has arfid and will only eat takeaway pizza from 1 particular place so we would be fooked

GentleSheep · 19/09/2026 09:59

springhasspringed · 19/09/2026 01:07

Thanks for that. How do I find out how to turn off the gas? I know where my fuse box is, guess I turn electricity off there. Only gas I have is for heating and hot water from the boiler. I'm in a housing association flat, never needed to turn the gas off before.

I'm still prepping. Bought a battery powered lantern today. I have 10 litres of water, food for about 3 days so far, will keep buying bits and pieces. I've packed an emergency go bag with clothes and medication. I still need to find my power bank and also to write down telephone numbers.

According to AI, to turn off the gas to your house, locate the emergency control valve at your gas meter and turn the valve lever a quarter-turn (90 degrees) so it sits across the pipe.

Locate the Gas Meter and Valve

  • Outside the house: In many properties, the meter and emergency control valve are housed in an outside plastic box near the front or side of the home.
  • Inside the house: If it is not outside, look under the stairs, beneath the kitchen sink, in a utility room, or in the garage.
  • The Valve: Look for the lever or tap handle sitting right on the incoming supply pipe before it enters the meter.

How to Shut Off the Gas
Check alignment: When the valve handle is running in line with the pipe, the gas is on.
Turn the valve: Use your hand or an adjustable wrench/pliers if it is stiff. Turn the handle 90 degrees (a quarter-turn) in either direction.
Verify off position: The valve is now off because the handle or tab sits crosswise (perpendicular) to the pipe.

My meter is ancient but right beside it is a level and the gas pipe going upwards. I've no idea how stiff our lever is and I'm not about to find out right now!

FindingMeno · 19/09/2026 10:27

I know where my gas supply turns off but have never tried it. Next time I have a boiler service I will ask them to give it a go. I'm a massive scaredy cat with gas 😳

GentleSheep · 19/09/2026 13:00

FindingMeno · 19/09/2026 10:27

I know where my gas supply turns off but have never tried it. Next time I have a boiler service I will ask them to give it a go. I'm a massive scaredy cat with gas 😳

Same here!

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Kalanthe · 19/09/2026 13:21

On top of what you already have - a battery-operated radio for government announcements, batteries, toilet paper (we all remember what happened in 2020). Also it might be going too far but I got those water filtering straws in case we run out of the bottled water stash and need to drink rain water. Also lots of spare medicine, sanitary pads, fully stocked first aid kit. I got some single use plates and cutlery because if there's no electricity there will be no water in taps so won't be able to wash up dishes. I'm considering getting a tent in case there's a longer power outage in winter - you're meant to set it up indoors as it helps retain body heat.

FindingMeno · 19/09/2026 15:27

@Kalanthesome really good suggestions there!

springhasspringed · 19/09/2026 17:46

I've found my radio and it takes aa batteries. I've got plenty of batteries, but will buy more soon. I've got some spare toilet paper and get my new box soon. I don't need sanitary pads anymore 😊 I will look into a small first aid kit and I have paracetamol, ibuprofen and my prescription medication - I've been ordering it a couple of days early for ages so I have spares! I don't have a tent, but several spare duvets and blankets, hoping that'll keep me warm. The disposable plates and cutlery are a good idea.

RVectensian · 23/09/2026 06:59

DorothyParker111 · 16/09/2026 16:28

What's really alarming is how many people don't know or don't understand the implications of this. It's inexplicable that we're allowing critical emergency infrastructure to just be shut down

Agreed. We are in a reception black hole where we are, and rely on WiFi calling. Now that landlines are non-existent we are in a bind.

I have bought a 4g/5g router with external antenna that can be put at the clearest point upstairs in an emergency, which gives us a little more service. Starlink is an obvious choice, but we are too resentful and mistrustful of Musk to go there right now.

GentleSheep · 23/09/2026 08:39

I'm looking at my supplies and thinking I'm going to be absolutely fed up with tomato if I have to subsist on my rations for very long! Tinned tomatoes, tomato soup, baked beans, tinned ratatouille! And no chocolate because trying to save chocolate just doesn't happen! 😎

HasaDiga · 23/09/2026 08:53

RVectensian · 23/09/2026 06:59

Agreed. We are in a reception black hole where we are, and rely on WiFi calling. Now that landlines are non-existent we are in a bind.

I have bought a 4g/5g router with external antenna that can be put at the clearest point upstairs in an emergency, which gives us a little more service. Starlink is an obvious choice, but we are too resentful and mistrustful of Musk to go there right now.

We were forced to bite the bullet and go with starlink and use wifi calling. It means if there is a power cut we have no way of making a call. We basically have to walk to the nearest spot that can get a mobile signal which takes about ten minutes or so. It's truly outrageous that they were allowed to destroy our communications infrastructure like that.

TherebytheGraceofGodgoI · 23/09/2026 09:04

I’m getting anxious about the fact that DS is 3 hours away in Uni. I’m not sure how any of this will impact us.
Would I be able to contact him? Should I drive to collect him? Would the Uni hall he is in, have any plans in place? Am I worrying too much?

RVectensian · 23/09/2026 09:44

HasaDiga · 23/09/2026 08:53

We were forced to bite the bullet and go with starlink and use wifi calling. It means if there is a power cut we have no way of making a call. We basically have to walk to the nearest spot that can get a mobile signal which takes about ten minutes or so. It's truly outrageous that they were allowed to destroy our communications infrastructure like that.

Yeah, maybe I will. The little set up isn't a huge amount

HasaDiga · 23/09/2026 11:14

TherebytheGraceofGodgoI · 23/09/2026 09:04

I’m getting anxious about the fact that DS is 3 hours away in Uni. I’m not sure how any of this will impact us.
Would I be able to contact him? Should I drive to collect him? Would the Uni hall he is in, have any plans in place? Am I worrying too much?

We actually had a discussion with DS2 before he left last weekend - also 3 hours away. We said if its power outage and it looks like its localised then stay put. We will fetch him if necessary. If its power outage and it looks like its countrywide then we will find a way to get him so again, unless he can communicate with us in some way, stay put at home so we know where he is.

If we tell him to get home then he gets home immediately even if he personally can't see the need. Fortunately one of his housemates lives close to us and has a car.

I hate to say it since people will shout about scaremongering but DS2 is also near a large nuclear power station so we also sent him off with potassium iodide tablets. They don't help those of us over 40 but do help younger people. For the sake of £10 it's worth having them IMO. I also made sure he has ready to eat food in case of power issues (although as a student I suspect that store will be depleted very rapidly).

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