Channel 4 undercover re Farage

[Ihateboris]

Oh dear...how's he going to explain this?
Https://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-nigel-farage-filmed-undercover-celebrating-secret-new-foreign-donations

@BrandiedAromatics
@DuncinToffee

The Conservatives declared the donation.

According to the poster BrandiedAromatics

We don’t allow foreign donations

Harborne declares British residency to enable him to make political donations.

The Conservatives declared the donations, Farage did not.

Farage and his team were filmed allegedly planning ways to channel foreign donations through UK based relatives which would be in contravention of UK electoral laws.

That’s the difference.

Farage is being investigated for the Harborne donation because he didn't declare it.

Harborne uses loopholes in the law
https://channel4news.substack.com/p/the-gaping-loopholes-used-by-billionaire

You don't believe words and context have power full stop? Quite a bit of this thread is about the right wing trying to occupy Cambridge University. Why would they do that then? You must be maintaining they feel passionate about divinity.

@DuncinToffee

I am registered on the UK electoral system, but not UK resident. The local council does not check residency even though it available information.

Are you a political donor?

Ahh right. I need to be more specific on my question then. Or lets use the mostly same words, but re-arrange them a bit.

When he says the UK has open borders, and that people arriving here get lots of free things, do you thing that encourages people to pay traffickers to make the journey to the UK ?

That is practically the same. Same goalposts, in the same position, I am just placing the penalty sot point a bit closer, I think.

That he is or is not in a position of power, as in PM, but wait, he is an MP, a lawmaker, does not make any difference to the question. Because he manages to get that message plastered all over the news and social media... OPEN BORDERS AND FREE THINGS.

Do you think that message encourages people to try the crossing ?

A similar thing, I suppose, would be.... If I stood on the road opposite a Tesco, with a big sign and a megaphone yelling, FREE BREAD AT THAT TESO SHOP, while that shop did not have free bread, do you think anyone would say "oh", and cross over to try to free bread ?

You know exactly what I am asking. But you are avoiding giving an answer.

@DuncinToffee

I don’t make donations to political parties.

@RedTagAlan

Traffickers would not work for free. Before boats were used, they used to arrive in the back of vehicles.

The French president, Macron, has stated UK must make it less appealing to channel migrants. Removal of free accommodation and allowances may reduce the incentive to cross the channel. However, for as long as employers are prepared to risk employing people illegally, some will still take the risk.

As for the free bread at Tesco, people wouldn’t need to bother as UK has many food banks that provide free food. About 3,000 as per the House of Commons report 17 June 2026.

Also, Tesco could have you arrested for making false statements.

Farage is one of 650 MPs and reform has a mere 5 seats. So, they will not be able to swing a vote.

@EEexpat I don’t make donations to political parties.

Then Farage does not have to worry about declaring anything from you.

He already has 6 cases on his hands.

They matter enough to Reform that they use allegedly illegal means to get funding to have them done, and then have the poll company hide who funded the poll. That has also landed the poll company in trouble.

It's a pity Reform did not share your opinion that polls don't matter.

Let me make a guess here though. I am guessing that if your own political views were more in line with poll results, then you might be saying polls are good.

This bit. Quote " Polls vary. Some have Labour slightly ahead. Some have Reform ahead."

Another claim. Can you link one, or maybe some, that have reform ahead ? Don't bother if it is a GB news poll though.

Totally completely and utterly avoided answering the question yet again.

Ahh well. Such is the world of Reform politics, even at online forum level.

You even avoided answering the Tesco question.

@RedTagAlan

The poll that had Reform ahead was YouGov.

The poll that had Labour ahead was PollCheck.

That polls are publishing different numbers is further evidence they are unreliable.

Let me make a guess here though. I am guessing that if your own political views were more in line with poll results, then you might be saying polls are good.

You have guessed wrong. Polls of 2000 can never be extrapolated to accurately forecast how 48 million people will vote. Even they could, the FPTP electoral system makes percentages meaningless.

@RedTagAlan

Why don’t you test the free bread at Tesco hypothesis yourself. You could post a video on MN and use the megaphone to hide your face.

Or you could just answer the question. But that won't happen I suspect.

Tesco has a yellow sticker scheme that marks food at £0 if it’s close the use by date beyond 9:30pm. The idea is to reduce food wastage and help local communities.

No mention of megaphones being used.

Quote "The poll that had Reform ahead was YouGov."

Youguv Date 2026-09-07 has Labour and reform tied at 23% each.

Your info is out of date, and it was out on the 1st of Sept . But it was ok on the 24th of August. Reform were 23% to Labour on 22% then.

I won't link it, because that appears not to be needed. But a couple of clicks and I have the Youguv data set in excel format on my screen.

Now totally fair enough that in the grand scheme of things it does not really matter. I am just a bit pedantic probably. But it does show that claims made often do not match easily obtained data.

Maybe that is why in general, not your good self of course, Reform fans do appear somewhat reluctant to post data that matches their claims. And why Reform are ok with taking allegedly illegal money to pay for polls they like. All for the greater good, as they likely say at Reform HQ.

Let me get this right, you're going on about concerns about immigration, whilst currently being an immigrant yourself...

As pointed out by TalkinPeace, the only poll that counts is the one with a ballot box and is presented to all eligible voters. In the UK that’s about 48 million people. Polls incorrectly forecast the following general elections:

1992
2015
2017

Source is britpolls.co.uk

Reform know from their experience in the 2024 general election that percentages and seats are not connected. So, if they have been trying to fudge polls what was the point as polls are not binding anyway.

Oh the beautiful irony

Quote " So, if they have been trying to fudge polls what was the point as polls are not binding anyway."

Who knows. I don't. Farage will, but he aint saying.

I mean why did you claim that a poll said Reform was ahead, when that is not what the poll said. Would you care to answer that? You know, instead of switching on your Star Trek level deflection shields.

So, why did you claim a poll said something it does not say ?

It will probably make him more popular. Being a sleazy cunt never did Trump any harm. All hail the dear leader. 🤢

I think this just about sums him up...

@RedTagAlan

As you have stated in an earlier post, the YouGov poll in August have Reform a slight lead. Today, it shows both Labour and Reform on 23%. Poll-check shows Labour at 25.4% and Reform 22.7%

That polls are producing different numbers is further evidence that they can’t be considered accurate.

However, poll percentages don’t mean anything due to the UK electoral FPTP system. The 2024 general election was a good example. There was no correlation between the percentage of votes won and seats won.

Why did you make the claim that the Youguv poll had Reform ahead ? That is what I asked.

And your answer might be a good insight for non Reform folk into how Reform works when it comes to facts and figures.

Did you make that claim -

a) without checking it was true

b) you knew it was wrong but thought nobody would check

c) wanted a good claim to make but did not check and did not care

d) An honest mistake guv, sorry

Or any other reason.

Being a sleazy cunt never did Trump any harm.

Some say Trump was elected solely on the subject of immigration.

Immigration in the UK has declined to pre-Brexit levels, but still measured in 100s of thousands as opposed to the 10s of thousands promised by both Conservative and Labour governments for decades.