When did Jesus actually die?

[PoloPrincess]

Can someone point me in the right direction?
We know that Jesus was crucified on Good Friday and he rose from the dead on Easter Sunday.
Then what happened? When and how did he finally die?

Anyway, thanks Patriarchy, you have made this thread very enjoyable. And useful. I have learnt a lot.

Perhaps you should print it off and frame it. You might find it useful too.

Weird

Dione

I honestly couldn't understand what you were trying to say... Can you rephrase?

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Thanks Vitalogy

Adding to the discussion as usual.

I can do that...

Empty vessels make the most noise.

Or this one might be more appropriate...

Ah, so Vitalogy has nothing to add to the conversation, but just comes on to throw insults around.

How very "Christian"...

And yet Bart Ehrman still believes that Jesus existed as an actual person.

How very "Christian" I'm not a Christian.

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Say you were debating that someone didn't exist, eg. Jesus. To then try to appeal to others to listen to his words would IMO be an example of special pleading in the extreme.

But based on your posts here, I'm not sure you came to debate at all Patriarchy.

Dione

Eh? Whose words are you talking about?

When have I mentioned Jesus's 'words'?

You said when implying that I was lying Isn't Jesus supposed to have had a lot to say about honesty?

Dione

Erm ok, right.

Socrates probably didn't exist, but I still enjoy reading about the things he is supposed to have said.

What about mentioning something Jesus is supposed to have said is 'special pleading'?

Patriarchy, how has it gone when you have discussed your belief regarding the non existence of historic Jesus on other sites?

Dione

Any thoughts on what special pleading actually is?

Anything to add on the argument from first cause?

Anything to add on, well, anything?

You didn't understand when I first mentioned it. You didn't understand when I explained it further. I doubt therefore that you will understand it at all.

Anyway, how has it gone for you when you have discussed this topic on other sites that are not predominantly female?

Hows it gone?

Well actually.

I'll help you out.

Special pleading is a form of fallacious argument that involves an attempt to cite something as an exception to a generally accepted rule, principle, etc. without justifying the exception

Have you ever discussed/debated your belief regarding the non existence of a historic Jesus on other discussion boards Patriarchy?

Has anyone pointed out that the evidence for the existence of anyone (bar kings etc) 2000 years ago is sketchy? A lot of what we know (or think we know) about ancient history is partly conjecture.

Dione

Yes of course, Twitter, and one or two others specific to my field of employment.

Why?

I'm interested (but also looking forward) to seeing where your going with this one...

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I doubt she's going anywhere. Just being goady/deflecty as per usual.

How did those discussions compared with this one?