When did Jesus actually die?

[PoloPrincess]

Can someone point me in the right direction?
We know that Jesus was crucified on Good Friday and he rose from the dead on Easter Sunday.
Then what happened? When and how did he finally die?

It’s by no means certain that he existed at all.

An interesting discussion and i hope im not hijacking as on a similar vein i wonder if another area of personal confusion could be cleared up?

OK so we have "God" "jesus" "the holy ghost"..so just how many of them are there?

Who got arrested and nailed on the cross?

If it was jesus, who is God ? Does he (or she?) have a name or is he just err called God ?

Everyone’s looking in the wrong place. Jesus was actually born in Wales. And did those feet in Ancient Times walk upon England’s mountains green? That’s the hidden secret of Christianity.

Bethlehem is in Wales. Google it.

Brian was nailed to the cross.

Interestingly Remsburg mentions in his book about the existence of Christ that at the time of his existence there were a number of prominent writers in the area of Palestine, Galilee and Jerusalem whose works are still available today. They include but are not limited to:

Juvenal, Lucanus, Philo-Judæus, Martial, Epictetus, Seneca, Persius Hermogones Silius Italicus, Pliny Elder, Plutarch, Statius, Arrian, Pliny Younger, Ptolemy, Petronius, Appian, Dion Pruseus, Justus of Tiberius, Phlegon, Paterculus, Apollonius, Phædrus, Suetonius, Quintilian, Valerius Maximus, Pausanias, Dio Chrysostom, Lysias, Florus Lucius, Columella, Pomponius Mela, Lucian, Valerius Flaccus, Appion of Alexandria, Quintius Curtius, Damis, Theon of Smyrna, Aulus Gellius and Favorinus

Funnily enough none of them make any mention of this remarkable man circulating around the countryside, performing miracles and then rising from the dead.

Make of that what you will.

RaspberryCheese these are questions that have been debated many times and form the basis of many a sermon but if you google "the trinity explained simply" you will get some better explanations than I can come up with.

Raspberry in Catholicism there are the three of them, god the father, god the son and god the Holy Ghost or spirit. (Interesting my autocorrect capitalises that but not god!)
They are the holy trinity and are all god.
I'm not sure there's much more explaining that can be done, it's a bonkers idea which makes no sense so there's no sense to be made of it! Just take it on faith

Laurie - If you're so sure of this evidence, why can't you quote me any sources?

mintich - I think it's maybe you that should do the googling. You obviously haven't actually looked into it. Try it, it's quite interesting.

@CardinalSin I have thanks. Studied it fairly in-depth! Not that I have to explain it to you. I'm secure in my knowledge.
As someone else said, someone like you pipes up on all religious/historical threads...It's boring.

I've looked into it in quite a lot of detail. There is literally no contemporary evidence that he ever existed.

Prove me wrong or stop the smug "I don't have to explain myself to you" rubbish.

Snore.. @cardinalsin I always see you on posts trying to provoke people....why don't you troll elsewhere, no one is interested here.

I know you're not interested in facts, however other people don't just parrot what their priest tells them, and are interested in the actual truth. I notice you don't come back with any, like, evidence...

Because I don't need to prove it to you. It doesn't make a difference to me how ignorant you are. You actually think I'm going to sit here finding papers for you?
I find it odd that you've supposedly researched this, despite not believing nor having done any sort of historical study. That's because you haven't. It's fine to be an atheist as you've stated on many other posts but why do you think anyone should want to prove you wrong?
If you are interested, actually research it, but if you are just sitting trying to fill a lonely evening by goading people then take it elsewhere. It's odd that all your posts always end with someone having to tell you where to go. Must be quite sad really.

I have obviously studied this far more than you have, because I know the truth of it.

You can keep blustering, but we all know it's to hide the fact that you have not a shred of evidence to present.

It must be quite sad to know that you're arguing something that you know is completely wrong, realising that it makes you look a fool.

Mintich

If it 'doesn't make a difference to you', then why insert yourself into this thread?

There are literally hundreds of threads on this site that don't make a difference to me, and I demonstrate that by.... not commenting on them.

It doesn't make a difference to me what cardinalsin believes. Think you misunderstood my post

I don't think he did...

Sure you have cardinalsin

All the statements that say 'there is no doubt Jesus existed', or words to that effect are Biblical scholars. No bias there then.

If I wanted to know/understand something I would most likely look to see what scholars of that subject have written about it. No?

Dione

Yes you are correct, but the name for the type of people who would give you an unbiased opinion is 'historians'.

'Biblical Scholars' will tell you something very different, I'm sure you can work out why.

According to Christian doctrine he is still alive.

There is some evidence of a historical figure, but it is not overwhelming.

There are also questions about the trial and Crucifixion. I can't remember the details but I don't think trials were held at Passover.

Many scholars state that they think there was a historical Jesus, due to some circumstantial evidence (not to mention their own leanings), but none can state that there definitely was, because there is no real evidence.

People are finally allowed to question this position, and it is starting to become more accepted.

To me, the fact that there is literally no contemporary evidence is the most telling point.

Jesus lived. And was a royal pain in the Romans arses. The osama bin laden of his age

There are no Roman records of him at all...

For those of you confused regarding The Trinity, the Alpha course in my village are showing the movie 'The Shack'. I believe you can easily find the DVD or the book.
They describe it thus:
"Facing a crisis of faith Mack receives a mysterious and personal invitation to meet with God at a place called 'The Shack’. Here he actually meets three characters (The Trinity) who are Father (God) Son (Jesus) and The Holy Spirit.
For people who struggle with understanding The Trinity this does go a way to explaining it. It is very thought provoking."
I haven't seen the film (or done Alpha) but a few people I know have really gained from both so good luck PoloPrincess.