"How to talk so kdis will listenand listen so kids will talk" - anyone want to go trhough this book?

[Porcupine]

and see hwat we think of it?

Its wuite heavy reading( not intellectually) just very close set type and lots of americna egs
But i reckon we cna do it.

So what does "being fresh" mean? I thought it meant don't be like a Freshman, so perhaps immature.

fresh means 'lippy' 'rude' 'obtuse'

Oh, thanks. So many people I could use it with then.

my 3 eldest children are very 'fresh' atm! sounds a bit too nice!!

OK, have re-read and get the 'feelings' bit now! I think I do this with dd anyway, but it's MUCH harder with ds who is 3.2 and really doesn't listen to anything I say. I don't remember dd being so negative at his age which is why I'm finding him hard work atm.

Next chapter?

I went to a workshop once where we discussed whether it's a good idea to give children the language for some of their feelings and whether it wasn't putting (negative) ideas into their heads.

I love the word obtuse

I love this thread! MB, we await your report with interest!

I asked ds1 (2.6) to tidy up his toys this morning. He looked at me, sighed and said "Mummy, I'm really not happy at all." WTF did that come from? Oh well, I suppose it's better than a tantrum.

Oliveoil....have used Obtuse with sixth formers. They don't know what it means either

Top thread, thanks cod. Was only thinking yesterday that I really need to re-read this book. When I start to remind myself of Charlie Brown's teacher in Peanuts, I know it's time for a refresher

I think the point of chapter one is to show you how bl**dy annoying it is when someone constantly denies your feelings e.g. try and imagine how you would feel if your DH/DP said to you some of the things you say to your kids - see hungry/cold examples further down.

MB, I think Year 12's might be a little fresh to try this approach on

am back early
not enough criminals
may go and read next chapter in sun

Despite my facetiousness earlier this thread has prompted me and DP to revive techniques, so ta, porcupine.
And not just on each other...

any resident of the krysty krab is a mate of min
( part fom mb who may well eb a chum bucket regular)

oi KP what have oyu done

hehe, porcy
Sad moment in, ahem, MaccyDs the other day:
Me (voice squeaking slightly with excitement): Oh look, boys, Spongebob happy meals are coming!
Cue boys looking puzzled over their Mcnuggets...
If I ever own a cafe, I will call it the Krusty Krab...

Oh from the book (thinks hard). I stopped DP last night gpoing into a rant about "why don't you stop being silly and get in the bath?" and turned it into a sort of "I understand it's very funny to put your brother's pullup on your head and run around heehawing in a loud voice but what do you think we should do about the fact you smell?" type session...

lololololol

re maccy ds
me too

does this book work on horrible toddlers aged nearly 3?

yes

hmmmmmm

right is ANYone followign htis or am i talkign to moi meem?

Yes, we're waiting for chapter 2 and advice on how to deal with horrible 3 year olds.

mine is awful, sad but true

phase phase phase phase phase

ok bakc in a few mins