MLM Bot Watch 71

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Yes it’s the 71st thread focused on exposing the lies of MLMs and the deceptions practiced by so/called ‘leaders’ who recruit recruit recruit!
You will only lose money if you join their ‘team’ - don’t do it!

They are getting desperate for numbers. The emails urging you to sign up are frantic. When I get time I’ll post the latest one. I’m busy at my real job where I only have to work two days a week for a five figure salary cos I put in the hours, studied hard and didn’t try to get rich quick😂

Yeah, apparently I’m missing the last chance to make a real difference to to my life, coz KNOWING you are gunna be the first generation of Entrepreneurs who will be shaping the future of business for the better!!

gunna !! WTAF

Castle was late to her live today!!

I would be amazed if she is still even around come September!

They have opened up the opportunity and are going live on the non VIP page- but all the people commenting things like "I'll be there" are people from the VIP group who have already seen it! including Nurse

Very similar to PhD's approach - her recruitment emails for her financial courses costing eye-watering sums of money read like a sweary copy of Just Seventeen.

What I do to preserve these statements is record them on my phone while they’re playing on my iPad. The quality can be a bit shite but once C&F delete the links at least their promises exist as evidence for later. I don’t record the whole thing, just the key lies. I have a pocket of time today thanks to my J.O.B. Do others do this?

so castle’s planners can’t stop her from being late for her live

her branding - black and white jacket is so hilarious. She might as well get an 8 ball jacket (like putty in Seinfeld)

Castle has yet again demonstrated that she is incapable of sticking to anything consistently for more than a couple of days.
The 'students' will be finding this out very quickly once the 'course' starts. Good thing they've got something in the T&Cs that 'if for whatever reason we don't deliver, we'll try to do it another time, honest, but don't hold us to it...'

@YouOKHun you can screen record on an iPad, pull down on the top right and the circle within a circle will record what's playing on the screen until you stop it. It's really useful!

Sounds better than the old Heath Robinson set up I’ve got! Thanks for the tip @PieonaBarm (I am such an old Luddite). There is no way I’m letting their dirty deletion save their sorry arses.

Two things I can't get my head around:

1. How people can be so cruel and callous as to scam those who are hovering at, or below, the poverty line.

1. How people keep on falling for the utter crap that comes out of Castle's mouth.

I've also noticed it seems to mostly be previous FL victims with not that many from Fierce that are signing up. That is why Fierce wanted to work with Castle, well it wasn't for her business acumen was it?

'Please remember entrepreneursity will have a group opening! We welcome friendship but we do not allow pitching to each other or attempting to convert.'

An excellent cross buiness platform! 😀

As for Yawn, that F69 Or whatever forevers latest sawdust shake is, is doing her no favours.

Weight loss with a side effect of complete loss of skin texture.

Though being able to warp objects you are standing in front of is a bit of a plus.

Good to see you back @whiterangey. I seem to remember you being a particular favourite of yawn!

I am struggling to see how Castle made a seven figure profit from her diary business. They have been operating for about 6 yrs and roll over the directors loan, basically paying it off each year with petit made. Also for the first few years BFF was involved and possible her siblings so personally she probably took a modest five figure profit.
Since she has jacked it in it is possible she will be left owing a lot of money to HMRC when directors loan has to be settled.

Yep @Whiterangey, so cruel and callous. There were definitely bios from people who were in real financial problems or otherwise vulnerable and it is a conscious choice of both Castle and Fierce to lead them into further misery. Who sees a story of someone having been through chemo and thinks “she’ll do; nicely vulnerable”? It’s really sickening.

I’m trying to use their hashtags everywhere to try and get info out there but I wish people would do a spot of googling, because the truth isn’t that hard to find.

Good to see you here again!

Shaping the future of business for the better?! Pyramid or pear? Choose wisely. 😉

Any one else seen Yawn’s accounts. With no massive bonus cheque I suspect the weight loss probably has more to do with anxiety. At no point in my 30 yrs running a business was I that much in debt. It truly is frightening how MLMs can bleed you dry.
I wonder whether sheer desperation has lead her to starving herself so she can become a weight loss guru. Her latest posts suggest that this is the direction she is going in. Unfortunately she’s up against some pretty big competition. Certainly in the area she lives, FL is view with a great deal of suspicion since at one point every other SAHM was an FL pedlar.

But she had a new recruit today!!!

it is interesting that a treat for her now is a coffee in Costa. We don’t see the designer shopping bags any more and there’s no flashy spending

Castle’s bio on the sales page said she made eight figures. The mind boggles. Shall we nominate her to be the next Chancellor of the Exchequer?

In their very little world they no longer know how to be transparent. MLM successfully brainwashed them. I think recruitment is very clever. Search out the biggest bullshitters you can find on social media ( very simple).

Easy to spot punters

1. heavy use of filters


2. excessive product placement , designer labels, announcing new purchases, always tag themselves in fashionable eateries etc etc


3. endless posts about children’s achievements and always for full public viewing


4. trying to hook people with endless posts that say nothing or invite comments


5. and of course selfie after selfie

I'm so sorry, have got Covid (again) and am just knackered and my head can't process everything my OH said about C&F extremely dodgy T&Cs. He read them all and probably spent as much time laughing about them as he did trying to explain what was wrong with them all. He said they read like a trainee had just copied and pasted them from different contracts. He wondered if it was done from someone in Spain / Gibraltar trying to convert it into English it read that poorly.
You all have summed up the general mess of it all and I think the fact C&F have advised their followers to ignore says it all. He said it's all written to give C&F the very best opportunity to swindle their participants out of funds.
The 3.5 clause that was mentioned above is to try and class all their 'participants' as businesses which would give them far less consumer rights then it would do if they were personal customers.
There was also another interesting clause (could have been 3.7) which said that any participants are not able to set up any 'similar' business during the course and for a year afterwards. OH said it's appallingly written and therefore unlikely to ever be enforceable BUT it's outrageous that they are selling their 'wisdom' but trying to frighten people into not being able to use what they have learnt as it could be 'similar'. C&F really are nasty people and I hope someone stands up to them when they realise that they've thrown their money away.

I went and got something to eat, lots of things to eat over a long period of time with only a few setbacks, but I'm way past them now.

I've been following the usual suspects, it's fascinating to watch the death of forever, and MLM in real time. The UK is not a viable market for MLM anymore, especially with forever.

Yawn and BFF are definitely not friends, as with Castle and her BFF I think it's the pressure of an ever decreasing pot of victims that isn't helping. Castle's BFF has been describing someone else as her bestie for years.

I cannot stop giggling at Yawn wearing her wolf run shirt. Fair play, I couldn't have done a wolf run, but without context it makes it seem as if its recent and not 9 years ago when she was a lot slimmer and fitter.

Sawdust shakes will not make you complete a wolf run.

Nice on infiltrating the c&f group to gain deets and proof for victims in the future, that is going to help so many people and at that time raise awareness for everyone.

Wig and Sleaze have been keeping me suitably amused with their antics and those they have been mixing with. Sleaze blocked me.

I may or may not have been personally responsible for a venue cancelling on them. They genuinely had no idea when it was booked so the venue wasn't to blame.

It was so sad that Sis died, I really hope her boys and husband are doing okay, she was so young and her sons were far too young to lose their Mum, life is so unfair.

As others have said, it's lovely to have you back @Whiterangey and excellent work on getting the venue cancelled - was that for the toxic nurse tour? I've been following (and reporting) them, coco the clown and all the other anti Vaxxers - it's just another horrid cult like mlms