Demonstration against Israeli bombing of Gaza in London on Saturday.

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If anyone is intersted.

It's at 12.30pm along Embankment, nearest tubes Embankment and Charing Cross.

It's being organised by Palestinian Solidarity Campaign, Stop the War Coaltion and numerous other groups.

I will bump this sporadically, but if anyone else would like to help promote this, plaese bump too.

I will be there.

according to various pages on the BBC and wikipedia websites the Israeli govt used to support and fund Hamas in order to destabilise Fatah. I wonder why this would be?

maybe someone more tech savvy can get a link up. I am not capable!

Thank you Rev, I appreciate your time and patience.

If Hamas is such a radical, fanatical faction just how much choice did the average Gazen have in their election?

I think, even given my rather limited understanding of the situation, have to agree that the response is disproportionate.

I would welcome the opinions of anyone who disagrees with this. But again I am not up for a row, I want to try and understand.

Yep I get that. I think its better to go with ones gut feeling. Mine is that this is wrong but it is not allied to any anti Jewish feeling.

This is an extremely interesting article written by an Oxford professor who has served in the Israeli army

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-palestine

Thanks, Kay for the reuters link.

So the headmaster was a Hamas bombmaker and used the children as human shields despite repeated calls to let them go? This fits with what an Israeli spokesperson said on R4 this morning. But he was an Israeli so he must have been lying?

Do we trust reuters??

I ask again. Who is responsible for all of these deaths?

I'm going to have to leave this thread alone for a while now..

Bubble I don't know if you've realised but that link is from last year, Kay posted it by mistake.

Yes, I read that article earlier Kate, but couldn't get link up.

The Israeli's are responsiable for yesterday's attack. There is no footage anywhere to prove otherwise.

Rev, Yes.
It is usually an interesting source of Moderate Israeli comment and analysis.

Ah -Rev, I wondered if you meant Ari Shavit's analysis. Although I see that he thinks the invasion is justified, at least he sees the harm, and suggests ways of mitigating it.

well the guy from UEWRA or whatever the acronym is ( sorry for my crapness here - it's a refugee agency)stated on News 24 earlier that Israeli officials have admitted there were no Hamas fighters inside the school. I'll try and find it....

rev- the comparison has been made before. Professor Richard Falk is a UN middle east envoy and has likened the actions of the Israelis to the Nazis. I am no good at links but anyone can read about him if they do a search on his name on the BBC website. Or indeed on google.

And this article made me cry.
Haaretz

hmmm...can't find much on the bbc website except the correct acronym which is UNRWA. I think it was breaking newsa so there will be more later / tomorrow? nothing on Guardian front webpage yet either.

maybe rev...maybe. But the Israelis need to be pushed into it and the palestinans are weak and leaderless ( Abbas is a puppet of the US). It would need a massive, sustained push from a strong and resolute group of world leaders who are not afraid of being labelled anti semitic ( such a convenient tag)and who respect the Palestinians right to a viable state - not a shit strip of land made up of refugee camps.