Anyone else following this Minneapolis daycare potential fraud story playing out in America?

[EvangelicalAboutButteredToast]

I’ve obviously been entangled in an algorithm but it’s fascinating.

I'm astonished that financial checks in the US are so weak. Obviously the UK saw lots of Covid fraud but I don't think it would be possible to establish a fraudulent network of this scale here..??

'rudimentary and at times combative way.'

• come on, you know that isn't what most people are angry about. The main concerns are excessive detention perceived to be included quite a few legal citizens, the fact that retainers are being sent to a brutal prison in El Salvador, and yes, the lack of due process

'take trash out in a swift, efficient way even if this means due process is deprioritised a little.' - 'Trash' ? Do you think all the illegal immigrants are trash? Yes there are definitely dangerous cartel members etc but many are people who have fled from war & other extreme situations & are not evil.

'the level of violence used is just so far beyond anything we see here in the UK. The cartel members are terrifying and make our ‘gangsters’ here look like kittens.' - I agree on this. You should tell that to the US & Reform politicians who want to make London out to be far more dangerous than any US city.

Why are many Somalian immigrants behaving like this? Learned helplessness?

Otoh we have a big problem with benefit fraud in UK ofc...

Quite the opposite - they are clearly highly skilled and motivated, albeit criminally. I imagine that much of the money has been sent to their families back in impoverished Somalia.

Can you tell me about 1 detainee who is absolutely innocent, legal and has done nothing wrong?

As for your last paragraph, woahhhh stretch Armstrong! Thats one hell of a reach.

Learned helplessness was more referring to the fake autism diagnoses and benefit claiming..

How many Somalians are actually running this scam? I understand there are clearly issues in their community but we shouldn't tar them all with the scammer's brush due to this case.

Seems very odd this story is not on normal news channels.

Are you on crack?! ICE are snatching people off the street just because of their skin colour and you seriously think any of that is ok?! The US constitution entitles every single person on American soil to due process.

We really don’t. Benefit fraud in the UK is absolutely tiny.

It is. It’s being covered extensively in America but you can also read about it on bbc, guardian ect

‘Fraud’ is deemed as things like using fake identities, or claiming pretending to be somebody else like a relative.

It doesn’t include people ‘massaging the facts’ to qualify for a benefit, which is… I think quite common.

Can you evidence that please?

You can see it in literally any news outlet of your choice.

www.nilc.org/articles/ice-is-detaining-indiscriminately-and-releasing-almost-no-one/

I’m not saying I don’t believe this but I was told upthtrad that CBS wasn’t a credible source for bias (to the right!) so think the poster is looking for news source with named examples

You don’t think the ‘National Immigration Law Center’ whose aim is to (quote) ‘defend the right to seek asylum and advocate for a 21st-century immigration system that centers human dignity’ is an unbiased source?

I just want the name of 1 American citizen who has been deported for ‘not being white’. Just 1 will do.

Mark Lyttle, an American citizen with mental disabilities who was wrongfully detained and deported to Mexico and forced to live on the streets and in prisons for months, settled his case against the federal government this week.
Lyttle will receive $175,000 for the suffering he endured after being detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), who deported him despite ample evidence that he was a U.S. citizen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Guzman

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g278yn4d3o.amp

2yo citizen deported

All told, available data shows that ICE arrested 674 potential U.S. citizens, detained 121, and deported 70 during the time frame the government watchdog analyzed.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/ice-deport-us-citizens/

This was from 2008….

The link doesn’t work either.

This was 2007

In this instance the mother who was a Honduran citizen was being deported back to Honduras and wanted to take the child with her (I don’t blame her!!)