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Anyone else following this Minneapolis daycare potential fraud story playing out in America?

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 01/01/2026 16:35

I’ve obviously been entangled in an algorithm but it’s fascinating.

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HighStreetOtter · 01/01/2026 20:40

DuncinToffee · 01/01/2026 19:20

A bloke with a camera crew demanding access to a children's day care centre during opening hours is not investigating journalism, neither should it be supported.

That was my initial reaction and then I read some more about it.

mathanxiety · 01/01/2026 20:42

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 01/01/2026 20:26

Why you having a go at me lol?

There's a difference between 'having a go' and correcting factual misrepresentations. How MN ended up with a Somali community is a process easy to fact check.

Or are you trying to tell me there aren't people in the US who chafe at the suggestion that it's a nation of immigrants - is that the bit you took personally?

DuncinToffee · 01/01/2026 20:43

MaturingCheeseball · 01/01/2026 20:06

@DuncinToffee npr is hardly a neutral source.

I assume you don't object to hearing from different sources. I have also shared CBS and CNN

Is Shirley a neutral youtuber?

Muffinmam · 01/01/2026 20:45

The same thing happened in Australia.

There are distinct similarities between the Minnesota fraud and the fraud in Sydney Australia.

I won’t spell out the similarities- I will just include an article:

www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/mothers-arrested-in-raids-over-allegedly-fraudulent-family-day-care-scheme-20190911-p52q77.html

Sequinsoneverythingplease · 01/01/2026 20:49

mathanxiety · 01/01/2026 20:37

Blimey, when all of this cult madness runs its course, you're going to look back at these TDS posts of yours and feel rather foolish.

Speak for yourself. For myself I am more than happy to change my mind once compelling evidence to the contrary presents itself, so please don’t worry on my behalf. I like to have all the information from both sides. Can you say the same? Having seen your entrenched position all over MN for the last decade I think not. That you so determinedly assert that you position is completely right and mine completely wrong & I will one day regret my “wrongness” tells me all I need to know about who is caught up in “cult madness” tbh.

Sequinsoneverythingplease · 01/01/2026 20:51

Muffinmam · 01/01/2026 20:45

The same thing happened in Australia.

There are distinct similarities between the Minnesota fraud and the fraud in Sydney Australia.

I won’t spell out the similarities- I will just include an article:

www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/mothers-arrested-in-raids-over-allegedly-fraudulent-family-day-care-scheme-20190911-p52q77.html

THERE MUST BE A WAY TO BLAME THIS ON TRUMP!

EasternStandard · 01/01/2026 20:52

DuncinToffee · 01/01/2026 19:36

Yet he doesn't know anything about child safety.

Would you be happy if your children's day care let in some random blokes wanting to film them?

Or would you sue the nursery if they did?

Are you sure you’ve got this right? Isn’t it as pp said dc weren’t there.

TheDaringFawn · 01/01/2026 20:52

Wowzerd how was this even allowed to happen

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 01/01/2026 20:58

mathanxiety · 01/01/2026 20:42

There's a difference between 'having a go' and correcting factual misrepresentations. How MN ended up with a Somali community is a process easy to fact check.

Or are you trying to tell me there aren't people in the US who chafe at the suggestion that it's a nation of immigrants - is that the bit you took personally?

I have no idea what you’re going on about. I can see some people are really struggling with the thread and I think you might be one of them.

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CoffeeSparkle · 01/01/2026 21:07

It’s not just daycare, it’s a massive network of fraudulent activities that appear to have been running for many years. (Also seems to be directly funding war.)

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/minnesota-fraud-schemes-what-we-know/

Even before the video spread far across the internet, however, scandal plagued Minnesota. In 2021, federal law enforcement first probed a series of multimillion dollar fraud schemes. Those fraud schemes have led to federal charges against 92 people with 62 convicted — and counting.
President Trump and other Republican lawmakers have focused attention on the state's large Somali community, as most of the fraud defendants are of Somali descent, drawing stiff criticism from local officials, including the state's Democratic Governor Tim Walz, who denounced Mr. Trump's criticism as "vile, racist lies and slander towards our fellow Minnesotans."
Walz, meanwhile, has faced intense scrutiny from both inside and outside Minnesota over his administration's handling of the crisis. The governor has acknowledged in recent weeks that the fraud problem could stretch into the billions, but disputed the $9 billion figure cited by prosecutors.
While Shirley's video focused on allegations of fraud in daycares in Minneapolis, federal investigators told CBS News child care is only "vaguely" a priority for prosecutors, and attention and resources are instead focused on more than a dozen other social services programs in Minnesota, including nutrition, housing and behavioral health.

Everything we know about Minnesota's massive fraud schemes

A viral social media video has put Minnesota's long-running fraud scandal at the center of the national conversation. Here's what to know.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/minnesota-fraud-schemes-what-we-know/

DuncinToffee · 01/01/2026 21:12

EasternStandard · 01/01/2026 20:52

Are you sure you’ve got this right? Isn’t it as pp said dc weren’t there.

There are videos of him not understanding why he and his camera crew can't just walk in.

Even if it is true that there were no children present, do you think he should be granted access? He is a youtuber, not law enforcement.

MaturingCheeseball · 01/01/2026 21:56

You seem disappointed that fraud was uncovered. Should the perpetrators have been allowed to crack on in your opinion?

LastTrainsEast · 01/01/2026 21:59

mathanxiety · 01/01/2026 20:23

Oh silly me, I clearly mistook this for a thread bashing Democrats and promoting the vile racism of trump and the GOP and Christian nationalists in general.

Well it's about people stealing money intended for children.

But I'm with those who think if it's Somalians we should just let them carry on. Anything else would be racist.

DuncinToffee · 01/01/2026 22:05

MaturingCheeseball · 01/01/2026 21:56

You seem disappointed that fraud was uncovered. Should the perpetrators have been allowed to crack on in your opinion?

Are you asking me?

No, I am not disappointed at all. I am glad it is being investigated and that people have been charged and convicted.

Shirley is not uncovering fraud, he is just after attention.

Muffinmam · 02/01/2026 04:38

Sequinsoneverythingplease · 01/01/2026 20:51

THERE MUST BE A WAY TO BLAME THIS ON TRUMP!

It has nothing to do with Trump.

HighStreetOtter · 02/01/2026 06:49

DuncinToffee · 01/01/2026 21:12

There are videos of him not understanding why he and his camera crew can't just walk in.

Even if it is true that there were no children present, do you think he should be granted access? He is a youtuber, not law enforcement.

I’m not sure he would ever have expected to be granted access. I admit I don’t follow him and never heard of him until this so might be missing something. But I think he went expecting not to get access. Yes he may be a publicity hungry content creator but he’s not daft. He’d already done a lot of research and I think very much knew there were no kids there. So of course they wouldn’t let him in. Even on the small chance he was wrong and there were kids there, again he wouldn’t expect to be let in.

the turning up on the doorstep was done for impact for the video, not a realistic expectation of entry.

Playingvideogames · 02/01/2026 06:51

No doubt the Americans will be made out to be monsters for not wanting this fraud to be carried out under their noses & any eligible criminals to be deported

Playingvideogames · 02/01/2026 06:52

DuncinToffee · 01/01/2026 22:05

Are you asking me?

No, I am not disappointed at all. I am glad it is being investigated and that people have been charged and convicted.

Shirley is not uncovering fraud, he is just after attention.

What would you define as ‘uncovering fraud’ and how is what he has done different from that?

Playingvideogames · 02/01/2026 07:04

HighStreetOtter · 01/01/2026 20:40

That was my initial reaction and then I read some more about it.

A daycare centre should absolutely refuse entry to anyone demanding access that has no right to be there, but they’re not the headquarters of MI5 and the fact they wouldn’t have seen any kids turning up with parents that morning is hard proof there were no children inside. So they weren’t ’demanding access to children’ as such as they knew none were in there.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 02/01/2026 07:31

It seems like this is just part of a wider fraud as criminal factions have taken advantage of lots of the Covid schemes that were set up and have leeched money out of them. I’m sure the sane has happened and it happening in the UK so hopefully Starmer is taking note.

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MaturingCheeseball · 02/01/2026 18:41

What is astounding is that some posters are jumping to make the bad guy the man doing the YouTube documentary, not the fraudsters!

And, as pps have said, it’s not a case of a man trying to get into a daycare facility - he knew darn well it was a scam before he turned up.

It’s bizarre that billions of dollars have been stolen and funnelled out of the country - very probably to fund more crime and even war - but liberals are beating their breasts and supporting it.

DuncinToffee · 02/01/2026 19:26

He knew quite well he was the scam before he turned up.

Nobody has defended or supported the fraudsters Confused

Maryaliceyoungx · 02/01/2026 19:37

DuncinToffee · 02/01/2026 19:26

He knew quite well he was the scam before he turned up.

Nobody has defended or supported the fraudsters Confused

There’s a go fund me to help the fraudsters

MaturingCheeseball · 02/01/2026 19:47

Maryaliceyoungx · 02/01/2026 19:37

There’s a go fund me to help the fraudsters

😂😂😂

letsallchant · 02/01/2026 19:54

Muffinmam · 01/01/2026 20:45

The same thing happened in Australia.

There are distinct similarities between the Minnesota fraud and the fraud in Sydney Australia.

I won’t spell out the similarities- I will just include an article:

www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/mothers-arrested-in-raids-over-allegedly-fraudulent-family-day-care-scheme-20190911-p52q77.html

Hadn't heard about these cases at all. This Sydney story requires a subscription but here's an accessible version
https://archive.ph/TFYl1