Anyone else following this Minneapolis daycare potential fraud story playing out in America?

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I’ve obviously been entangled in an algorithm but it’s fascinating.

Deflect from what, exactly? The long and short of it is far right idiots are turning up at daycares without children, with camera crews and demanding to be let into daycares.

Here you go @icycoldbutnosnow

I’d be interested in what actual evidence of fraud there is

He demanded to be let in. You’re telling me that in 2025, he wouldn’t have called up?

Well the ‘Learing Centre’ has received 10 million dollars in 5 years but can’t spell their sign right?

the 10 million is fact - it’s in public record

Okay, so their sign is spelt incorrectly.

Is that evidence of widespread daycare fraud across the USA? There are legitimate businesses all over the world with less than intelligent owners.

Is this the same one who when asked to produce their employee and roll documents said somebody had broken in and stolen them just the day before? 🤥

It’s not across the USA as far as I am aware… it’s in Minnesota.

does it look like a facility to you that has had 10 million dollars?

also - have you watched the videos?

No - that is a different one. Where the manager was wearing 3k glasses

If these businesses are legit then I’m a tractor wheel

I don't want to trouble you with inconvenient facts, but there have been long term investigations into this under the Biden administration that have resulted in 90 people being charged and 60 convicted.

You don't cut off funding to an entire state because some people have committed fraud. But that metric, all procurement funding in the UK should have come to an end because Michelle Mone committed fraud. You investigate, charge and convict with evidence.

It's idiocy and yet another transparent attempt by the current administration to punish political enemies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/30/us/politics/hhs-minnesota-funds-day-care-fraud.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BVA.VWEJ.8yXG0G3CcSkD&smid=url-share

Then why are people turning up at daycares across the nation?

if you genuinely believe that it’s a proportionate response then fair enough. But I think it’s disgusting.

Because we’ve entered a new era of online vigilantism.

And thank fuck as the politicians have been so inept they really need the shove.

So you think it’s okay

Says it all really.

I never said it was a proportionate response! I’m certainly not turning up at day cares am I!!

what I’m saying is fraud is fraud and should be investigated. I can’t predict how people are going to react!

ohhh gotcha is it!! Troubling me with inconvenient facts that I already posted about ffs!

yes - there is is fraud that is being investigated- mostly relating to Covid schemes so it’s been going on years.

i havnt said it’s right to cut off funding. I dont think it is. Don’t put words in my mouth.

If he hadn’t shown up, this all would’ve gone totally unnoticed.

Sadly people feel they have no choice but to carry out their own investigations because certain left wing politicians have done their best to make every country a kafkaesque nightmare behind which all kind of financial abuse and corruption can thrive.

You said

the fraud has been going on for years with no investigations - so yes, sometimes it needs a YouTuber to bring things to the forefront

I said, you're wrong. And I said it with supporting evidence. So, yeah, it is a gotcha.

Sigh. It is literally in the article I posted that the Biden administration charged 90 people in these investigations, 60 have been convicted.

How do you square that with
If he hadn’t shown up, this all would’ve gone totally unnoticed.
?

Do facts matter at all to you?

I meant fraud relating to medical centres and potentially day care centres. The fraud where there have been charges is for Covid schemes. Different frauds.
seems there is lot going on there!

But they are different investigations! The charges already brought are for Covid fraud

No, the charges and investigations were wider than covid fraud.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/minnesota-fraud-scandal.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BVA.anl6.t_qV3zOFVUpY&smid=url-share

According the article

The prosecutors told reporters that they were investigating suspicious billing practices in 14 Medicaid-funded programs. Until now, the investigation had focused on only three safety net programs run by state agencies.

doesn’t mention day care or medical centers.
just Medicaid funded programs. This is what I mean that the Covid fraud was likely a tip
of the iceberg.

It’s like ICE. People are shocked and horrified that people are being deported without a long, expensive, complicated and counterproductive series of appeals before finally being allowed to stay. They’re shocked and horrified the agents are fairly tough men who carry out their duties in a fairly rudimentary and at times combative way.

What these hand wringing, pearl clutching left wingers don’t grasp is that the USA is absolutely crawling with people so dangerous and psychopathic that it’s very hard to imagine what living on their ‘turf’ is actually like. They have entire cities lost to crystal meth, gang violence is far more common and the level of violence used is just so far beyond anything we see here in the UK. The cartel members are terrifying and make our ‘gangsters’ here look like kittens.

So good luck if you think these people can be dealt with ‘sensitively and humanely’ by ‘decent’ agents who are the equivalent of Owen Jones and Louis Theroux. It’s all very well being disgusted from 3000km away, in a nice house in Oxford or Bath, but I suggest you hop on a plane and take a quick tour of Fresno or Detroit before showing it.

The current administration is fairly hideous in many ways but I don’t blame them for wanting to take trash out in a swift, efficient way even if this means due process is deprioritised a little.

Sadly this is where you get to when left leaning administrations spend decades dithering and trying ‘gentle’ solutions which are very expensive and inefficient

The whole thing really does stink - it’s so depressing.