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Celebrity Big Brother: is it really racist or 'just' bullying and bitchiness?

1002 replies

LucyJones · 17/01/2007 08:20

I'm really not sure where I stand. A lot of it just sems like school girl horridness

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JoolsToo · 18/01/2007 14:38

Ofcom in the Guardian

JoolsToo · 18/01/2007 14:39

apparently one of the tv ads for Heat or Now had Jade on the front cover but that is now being blurred out!

Aloha · 18/01/2007 14:40

Yes, that's my veiw exactly Welshmum. A modern morality tale indeed.

UCM · 18/01/2007 14:40

In fact, it shoud be stopped, now, the end. To carry on with this disgraceful farce is a dreadful indictment of how things really are today.

UCM · 18/01/2007 14:41

And I would hate my kids to be sitting there watching this stuff.

doormat · 18/01/2007 14:41

it is being whitewashed as usual and

Cashncarry · 18/01/2007 14:41

UCM - don't think I would actually! If I was Shilpa, I wouldn't want to lose the money just because someone was being abusive to me.

Shilpa's not actually THAT famous in Bollywood - she might actually need the cash!

Anyway, was kind of in that situation at school and decided not to say anything because I didn't want to have to go to the local comp! (please - no comments about comps and grammars - thank you )

Cashncarry · 18/01/2007 14:42

bl**dy hell, this thread's moving fast!

AitchTwoOh · 18/01/2007 14:43

mummypenguin, thread's moving fast...
what i actually wrote was "i hardly need add that shilpa would definitely have wanted to join the show to raise her profile, just as every single other person in there did, but to suggest that because she agreed to go on the show she forfeits all human rights (as i believe i have seen people imply on these threads) is ridiculous and offensive.

i didn't say you'd said it, i said that i'd some people on this thread imply it. loads of people here and on the other threads have said things along the lines of 'she's getting paid... etc etc' and it's a point i think is ludicrous.

however, having read what i wrote i can see that i was not wholly explicit that i wasn't talking to you directly on that point, so i wholeheartedly apologise if that was the impression that i gave.

fuzzywuzzy · 18/01/2007 14:44

I utterly agree UCM, the whole farce of a show should just be pulled.

I'm wondering why Shilpa's putting up with this, or why indeed she figured she'd join the show in the first place.

I'm thinking it's probably a matter of principle for her at this point not to be seen to be backing down in the face of the bullies.

Rhubarb · 18/01/2007 14:44

It's always been like that in this country.

You get ignorance everywhere, you get bullies everywhere.

I got bullied mercilessly at school and work about how thin I was. Asked if I was anorexic, told if I stood side on I'd disappear etc etc. Sizeist? I don't think so!

Bullying is bullying. I don't think you should narrow it down to racism. Was Jade being racist when she asked if us Northerners used different currency? No.

They are thick bullies. I hope they lose their careers. I hope realism TV dies a death. But above all I do hope common sense prevails!

Aloha · 18/01/2007 14:45

Ok Custardo, if Shilpa wasn't in the contest but there was an Asian contestant who was slaggy, dim, nasty and not so attractive, I think she could also have been bessie mates with Majory Dawes and her sidekicks. It's not her race that Jade objects to per se, she hates her for other reasons so makes racist comments, just as if there was a contestant who was posh and refined and clever and had red hair or a flat chest or anything really, she'd go for that.
That does NOT excuse racist comments, of course.

UCM · 18/01/2007 14:46

It's almost saying that this behaviour is acceptable by keeping it on.

JoolsToo · 18/01/2007 14:46

channel 4 are making a statement on sky news now

mytwocents · 18/01/2007 14:46

Think shilpa thought would be more like indian bb where they all behave similar to her, also I never saw this coming before jade went in, prob shld have as is point of bb...

doormat · 18/01/2007 14:47

aloha cleo is all those things, refined, classy etc
why hasnt she gunned for cleo

Aloha · 18/01/2007 14:47

My stepdaughter is watching this. She's 15. She is as appalled by Jade as anyone. In many ways I think it is a good thing that people can see this, and see how ugly it is. After all, it is very common behaviour which usually goes unremarked upon.

doormat · 18/01/2007 14:48

yeh they have whitewashed it

Aloha · 18/01/2007 14:49

Cleo is much older. She's no threat. Jade et al just won't see her as a rival at all, due to her great age (ie about my age!). Also Shilpa is more assertive and clearly not intimidated by Jade, whereas Cleo is.

fuzzywuzzy · 18/01/2007 14:49

I don't think she's doing it for the money (her daddy's rich).

And after Dhadkan, her star kind of catapulted.

I assume she wants to increase her exposure in the West, maybe get a few movies done here to al la Aishwariya.....???

Cashncarry · 18/01/2007 14:49

police record CCB abuse as a "racial incident

Hurrah!

mummylin2495 · 18/01/2007 14:49

i think that probably most of us will continue to watch it on the tele only because we now want to see the ghastly three and the lapdog get their come uppance.

JoolsToo · 18/01/2007 14:50

They are saying that Shilpa doesn't feel her treatment is racially motivated but no-one has mentioned the fact that Shilpa has not been party to all the comments.

They have just confirmed that Jack used the 'c' word in relation to Shilpa

mytwocents · 18/01/2007 14:51

Cleo is not so DIFFERENT i reckon is rweason, jade is prejudice, ignorant etc

southeastastra · 18/01/2007 14:51

press conference on now, they can't say for sure if remarks are racist, but surely if shilpa think they are that's who they should listen to?

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