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Soldier beheaded in Woolwich and it took police 20 mins

161 replies

bkgirl · 22/05/2013 19:35

Why am I not surprised? 20 minutes, what chance do we have with this pathetic response. As for the barracks...why couldn't someone come out with a gun and at least prevent these guys from attacking anyone else. Who was guarding the army base - do they have guns? Dreadful.

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HeySoulSister · 22/05/2013 19:38

oh here we go!! slag off the police!

5318008 · 22/05/2013 19:38
harryhausen · 22/05/2013 19:39

Oh yeah. Those nasty police are disgusting.

Bowlersarm · 22/05/2013 19:40

It's a terrible thing to happen, blame the people who did it.

Not the over stretched police force please.

MissyMooandherBeaverofSteel · 22/05/2013 19:41

Yes its the police and the armys fault, nothing at all to do with the two people who actually committed the murder.

HeySoulSister · 22/05/2013 19:41

my thoughts are with those officers (my former colleagues)....not a nice task

JakeBullet · 22/05/2013 19:42

Nowt to do with the arseholes who committed th crime then?

Pagwatch · 22/05/2013 19:42

Christ almighty. Can you just have some bloody respect?

WireCatWhore · 22/05/2013 19:43

Really op. really.

Where did you get your "fact" from?

anothershittynickname · 22/05/2013 19:44

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crypes · 22/05/2013 19:44

It's abit worrying tho because the police wernt properly prepared for the London riots two years ago , you would think they would be at the scene in no time.

Lifeisontheup · 22/05/2013 19:46

Thoughts and prayers with the family of the young man and with those who witnessed it and for the emergency services who attended.

I save my disgust for the perpetrators of this horrific crime.

HeySoulSister · 22/05/2013 19:46

how much time is acceptable to you crypes

jcscot · 22/05/2013 19:46

Soldiers on guard are subject to Rules of Engagement that would (possibly - I don't know) prevent them from firing on civilians off-base. It's also possible that the gate was manned by MoD Plod, not soldiers or MPGS, who have different jurisdiction to civvie police. Their priority would be to ensure the safety of the base in case the incident was meant as a diversionary tactic to mask an attack on the barracks.

My thoughts are with the family of the dead soldier.

Januarymadness · 22/05/2013 19:49

it did not take police that long. It took ARMED police that long. what do you expect an armed copper 2 mins up the road at all times......

scaevola · 22/05/2013 19:50

The attack was on the road, near but not immediately adjacent to the barracks. Who was on guard there is wholly unrelated to this incident.

I am sure all actions by the police will be scrutinised, as they always are when they open fire.

pooka · 22/05/2013 19:51

Ffs.

Rein it in, you sound ridiculous.

The police response had to be armed - the attackers were clearly waiting for them to arrive in order that they could attack the police. Do you reckon that the pcs from around the corner with a truncheon or pepper spray soiled have taken on armed men, with gun and machete?

Gods sake. Angry

Januarymadness · 22/05/2013 19:52

I would really like a like button for anothershittynicknames post.

This is closer to home than you would ever believe and I still say Fuck off. And please don't drum up any kind of hate (apart from those who actually did it) because someone has already died. Whipping up a frenzy will put a higher tally on your concience.

NiceTabard · 22/05/2013 19:52

That is just a really stupid post, OP.

crypes · 22/05/2013 19:54

I just said ' no time'.

pooka · 22/05/2013 19:55

Your post doesn't make sense - "prevent these guys from attacking anyone else". They didn't attack anyone else. They were waiting for police to approach themin order that they could attack them. Having used the whole thing as a propaganda exercise.

You're expecting soldiers to leave base, i nvestigate and shoot the attackers who at that stage weren't attacking any more? That's a military execution. Would escalate and also raise a shitstorm of questions and publicity against the army, taking the focus away from the hideous actions to these two attackers.

EmmaDale · 22/05/2013 20:01

'why couldn't someone come out with a gun and at least prevent these guys from attacking anyone else'

Really??

Why on earth post? What you've written doesn't make any sense. You sound like a total idiot and above all, your drivel isn't needed at this time.
Just fucking leave it.

(and yes, i did mean to be so rude)

clam · 22/05/2013 20:01

"come out with a gun?"
Yeah, right, coz it's that simple.
Ridiculous thread!

jamtoast12 · 22/05/2013 20:02

I've read lots of news sites just now... Where does it mention he was beheaded as it doesn't say it anywhere?

jcscot · 22/05/2013 20:02

what pooka and scaevola said.

The military would not have had jurisdiction in this incident. Can you imagine the shitstorm if they'd fired on the attackers?