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hunting is illegal so why do it?

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VicarInaTutuDrankSantasSherry · 17/12/2012 22:26

i ride. (well, ive just started but....)
i abhor hunting. hate hate hate the cruelty of it. i think that the RSPCA did the right thing here in this prosecution. why do people of a certain class believe they are above the law?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-camerons-local-hunt-fined-26300-for-illegal-fox-hunting-8422915.html

and we spend money (rightly imo) doing this www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-20739585

mad world. why do people feel the need to kill animals in the most inhunane ways possible?

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TheOriginalLadyFT · 20/12/2012 22:23

Snort, that's right Mel, keep telling yourself that

There's a big difference in caring for animals and being sentimental about them

tetleymel · 20/12/2012 22:23

LadyFT - terrierwork involves a terrier forced underground to fight a fox. You are deluded if you don't recognise this.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/12/2012 22:24

I have explained that drag hunting is more suitable for thoroughbreds as it is more geared to jumping and short, fast lines rather than a steadier full day

Trail hunting is designed to replicate live quarry hunting as much as possible and involves simulating the search in covert for a scent to follow. The laying of trails, it is claimed, is carried out in such a way as to mirror the movements of hunted live quarry with the result that the progress of the hunt is less predictable and of a slower pace than that of a drag hunt. There is more emphasis on hound work in trail hunting than in drag hunting. The trail scent purportedly used is animal-based; there is little information on the type of scent used but in the case of traditional fox hunting packs fox urine is often claimed to be used. The reason given for the use of animal based scents is that if the Hunting Act is repealed the hounds do not have to be re-trained to hunt the natural quarry scent.

"While the Hunting Act is in place, one of the several legal alternatives to provide activity for Hunts is trail hunting. This is for hounds to follow an artificial scent, which has been laid in such a way as to mimic a real fox hunt. It would ideally not be the flat out gallop typical of drag hunting, would take in different types of country and be a challenge for the hounds. It is one of the ways to keep the infrastructure of Hunts intact until such time as repeal of the Hunting Act can be achieved." Alastair Jackson (Director of the Masters of Foxhounds Association)

TuftyFinch · 20/12/2012 22:24

Theorigami ridiculous post to Vicar. You've never needed to call the police yourself I take it?
but
while we're on the subject can one of the murderers or hunters, whichever, tell me why you wear those ridiculous red jackets? You know you all look really silly. Right?

TheOriginalLadyFT · 20/12/2012 22:24

I go out most Mondays hunting. I am hunting within the law. It is not illegal

TheOriginalLadyFT · 20/12/2012 22:26

Yes I have called the police, and they have generally been very helpful when it comes to real rural crimes

Getting twitchy when I make a jibe about minister, yet it's fine to refer to pro-hunting people as sickos, psychos, weirdos etc. bizarre

lidlqueen · 20/12/2012 22:26

the only people i know that go hunting are 100 per cent invested in the countryside, being farmers who, as i said earlier, lose £60 per lamb to foxes. that's their livelihood.
round here buses of crazed hippies/antis from London actually bring captured urban foxes and set them free. In the middle of sheep country.

Ponyofdoom · 20/12/2012 22:26

Tetley you are talking b*llocks, why would a hunt shoot a healthy hound of 5 that it had carefully bred and trained? It wouldn't, there would be no reason to! And hunting isn't illegal, there are lots of options under the Act eg flushing to guns, exercising hounds (with accidental kills) is legal, hunting with an eagle- all the packs have found ways to continue. Hunting will always survive.

Pantomimedam · 20/12/2012 22:27

Many farmers I know don't want hunts on their land due to the damage they cause.

tetleymel · 20/12/2012 22:27

Yeah, sentimental fools who'd rather not see domestic pets ripped apart by hounds. Sentimental fools who'd rather not see a pregnant hind chased for miles and brought to her knees before being ripped apart by hounds. Sentimental fools who'd rather not see terriers pushed down holes in the cubhunting season, so that they can rip them apart. Sentimental fools who'd rather not see a hound bred, just to be prematurely shot.

You're never going to win this argument in the public's eye. It's so clearly wrong and perverted.

TheOriginalLadyFT · 20/12/2012 22:27

Hunt servants wear hunting pink for tradition and also to make them stand out from the rest of the field and at a distance. They look smart IMO which of course is different to yours

lidlqueen · 20/12/2012 22:28

tell me why you wear those ridiculous red jackets?
it's the original hi viz jacket, silly.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/12/2012 22:28

Ponyofdoom Thu 20-Dec-12 18:46:07
Ariel the fox is an amoral predator which has a very good chance of escape

Ponyofdoom Thu 20-Dec-12 22:20:45
There are few drag hunts because the farmers don't want them. The land is cut up for no benefit...It does not contribute to pest control.

TheOriginalLadyFT · 20/12/2012 22:28

We don't have to win it in the public eye - I'm happy to go on as we are until it gets repealed, which it will eventually

TuftyFinch · 20/12/2012 22:28

Those London weirdos eh? what can you do? Maybe you could hunt them?

Why do you wear ridiculous red coats?

VicarInaTutuDrankSantasSherry · 20/12/2012 22:28

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tetleymel · 20/12/2012 22:28

So, where do the hounds go, Pony? I'm starting to doubt that you're involved in hunting at all. You seem to know so little of what goes on in every Hunt in the UK!

I said hunting with a pack is illegal. Jeez - read the posts!

TheOriginalLadyFT · 20/12/2012 22:29

See post above re coats

No, I leave London people to mind their own business - pity they don't extend me the same courtesy

VicarInaTutuDrankSantasSherry · 20/12/2012 22:30

where, have i referred to anyone as a phsyco or a wierdo? please do find and quote me

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TheOriginalLadyFT · 20/12/2012 22:30

We hunt with a pack every Monday - we are not breaking the law as it stands I can assure you.

VicarInaTutuDrankSantasSherry · 20/12/2012 22:30

*psycho
*weirdo

spelling gone to pot. i challenge you to find one quote from me that stated that.

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lidlqueen · 20/12/2012 22:31

Maybe you could hunt them? Grin that's so slipstream....I am off....tally ho!

tetleymel · 20/12/2012 22:31

Ooo, LadyFT, please make a lovely big donation to the Countryside Alliance's Fighting for Repeal campaign. That would be lovely.

And then go to your nearest drain and empty the rest of your bank account into it.

The Act is not going to be repealed. In fact, it's going to be tightened. It's good news.

TheOriginalLadyFT · 20/12/2012 22:31

Me too - hounds please!

VicarInaTutuDrankSantasSherry · 20/12/2012 22:32

im waiting for theoriginal to show me where i said any of the things she is accusing me of.

still waiting.

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