hunting is illegal so why do it?

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i ride. (well, ive just started but....)
i abhor hunting. hate hate hate the cruelty of it. i think that the RSPCA did the right thing here in this prosecution. why do people of a certain class believe they are above the law?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-camerons-local-hunt-fined-26300-for-illegal-fox-hunting-8422915.html

and we spend money (rightly imo) doing this www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-20739585

mad world. why do people feel the need to kill animals in the most inhunane ways possible?

Haha haven't looked at the League website for ages. They hardly have any members left now apparently :0 Hope they don't close down for the sake of democracy and freedom of speech- even though they would like to ban me :)

I have seen for myself. The hunters called me all sorts of charming names.

I don't think there is anything wrong with hunting and killing foxes I agree with you ponyofdoom - factory farming is far crueller.

Don't agree with that Tufty but I have spat on and physically attacked by antis.

No, that's not true, it's the landowners, not simpy farmers. Have a look at certain areas of North Wales and the West Country, in which hunts are routinely criticised for trespassing. What about the horrendous havoc caused by Hunts on roads and railways? I supposed that doesn't happen in your silly world either, Pony.

As I've already said, I've been to and investigated that activities of many, many hunts across the country, for many years.

Pony you know they've got hardly any members? Is this CA propaganda?
In fact, you've done me a favor. My membership had lapsed. I'm going to renew it right now.

tetleymel i'm not entirely sure where the whole deer thing has come from - just a completely different issue/ debate to fox hunting. For starters deer are prized for their meat and head and as little damage as possible is done to the carcass during culling. Fox are seen as a pest and are therefore treated differently. Not debating the rights and wrongs of either but fox hunting and deer hunting are two entirely different things done in different ways!

The animals of farthing wood have a lot to answer for in my opinion.

exactly its - if the difference between a hunt and a drag hunt is the kill then why hunt if the kill brings no pleasure?

really interesting link tetley and very informative - that link does have stats. and post mortem evidence after a kill which shows a quick bite to the neck is bollocks.

i have no idea how any right minded individual can believe any blood sport has any place in a so called civilised society.

Quite right lidlqueen.

pony, why don't you go and educate yourself a little, 'see for yourself', as you so patronizingly put it, by doing a little real time in the countryside - not as a hunter, but maybe wandering around the places where dying animals limp off to die. You go do a shift at your local vet's (if you're lucky, he'll have to go out to shoot another perfectly healthy horse so twit has jumped over a hedge while pissed and broken its leg or ripped its chest to bits), or you go watch while your non-farming neighbours work out how to explain to the children why a load of hounds and horses burst into their playground. You go and sort out the miscarrying ewes for the farmer who doesn't give a flying fuck one way or the other about the hunt, but who's still been badly treated by them because they think an 'sorry' after the event makes it ok.

Maybe after you've done that, you will stop pretending it's only you who really knows about hunting, eh?

Don't agree with that Tufty but I have spat on and physically attacked by antis

Is that where 'life experience' says more than statistics?

Spat at? Two anti-hunt campaigners have been killed by Hunt staff (Mike Hill and Tom Worby). Hunters have also been prosecuted for riding over anti-hunters and using extreme physical violence.

But these are people who kill for kicks, so what can one expect?!

but besides anything

it is against the law! or should we just all pick the laws we are going to subscribe to?

Some people find fancy ways to pretend they're above the law.

i have no idea how any right minded individual can believe any blood sport has any place in a so called civilised society

foxes bite heads off lambs which costs farmers sixty quid a time, they don't even do it because they are hungry, just for bloodsport and to teach their cubs.

Are you bloody joking? What about those murderers who flew a mini helicopter into a hunt follower and decapitated him?!

I explained before that there are many differences between a drag and a quarry hunt that make the drag hunt unsuitable for many horses and riders and there are very few in the UK anyway! I never said the kill was a bite to the back of the neck. The kills I have seen have been so quick it is irrelevant to argue over exactly how they die. A terrier with a rat is a good analogy though. Do the antis think a terrier killing a rat is cruel? Again it is a quick death. Neither the hound nor terrier wants to get bitten

Hunting is not illegal, just to be clear about breaking laws and all that

Yeah many antis are REALLY f*cked up, I have seen them in action, not nice.

i will ask again, very politely

it is against the law! or should we just all pick the laws we are going to subscribe to?

I think you'll find that the nutcase who decided it was a good idea to grab the propellors of a gyrocopter was at fault. Yes he died, but it was through his own stupidity.

hunting with dogs ill illegal.

lidl - yes, that's because they're wild animals. What's your excuse?

pony - again, you ignore the other bits of this event - the chase? I'm sure foxes love that bit, right? But then .... you told us they're the weakest and sickest so I'm sure the chase is really short, right? Given what someone said about a sick fox being too weak to stop magpies picking out its eyes (get me the violins ...), that must be, what, two metres?

It's amazing you lot ever manage a hunt, if all you say is true, isn't it?

I'm with ya ponyofdoom

Hunting with a pack of hounds is illegal.

I look forward to the day that terrierwork is too.

Bring on custodial sentences for the Hunting weirdos too. That would be nice.