hunting is illegal so why do it?

[VicarInaTutuDrankSantasSherry]

i ride. (well, ive just started but....)
i abhor hunting. hate hate hate the cruelty of it. i think that the RSPCA did the right thing here in this prosecution. why do people of a certain class believe they are above the law?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-camerons-local-hunt-fined-26300-for-illegal-fox-hunting-8422915.html

and we spend money (rightly imo) doing this www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-20739585

mad world. why do people feel the need to kill animals in the most inhunane ways possible?

tutt - my point exactly.

so when a buglar thinks the law is morally wrong because someone has more than he does is that ok to break that law?

if a man believes that he has a right to sex with his wife does it mean its ok for him to rape her and break that law?

is it ok for people to drink and then in a car despite the consequences being they could kill someone, if they believe that its ok?

if its just about what one believes to be right and not about sticking to the law of the land then we are going to be in a mess. The law if there for a reason. if its ok for you to break the law then why not others - would you say the same if someone hurt your horses because they believed their morals were more right than yours and sod the law?

what a ridiculous argument for breaking the law.

Tufty it depends on the poll and the questions asked, I hope you know that? The CA produce some very different stats. What % of the population is rural and knows anything about the countryside?? Hmmm

It is the human enjoyment I find sick, not how much or little pain the animal suffers

This

Tetley if 90% of farmers weren't in favour of hunting the sport would stop tomorrow

'Statistics tend to aid the pro hunters but in the end dont tell us as much as life experience'

Feel free to quote those, then. If they exist.

Itsall WHO enjoys the kill?? I have never met anyone who does

Yep and the Countryside Alliance was rapped on the knuckles by the Advertising Standards Agency for using the false 59% stat. They now concede that the VAST majority of urban and rural populations are, of course, against hunting.

Exactly Vicar.
Pony of course I know that. But patronise away. You, as a hunter, cannot claim to know more about the countryside than a non hunter. You know that right?

pony - you don't enjoy hunting? So why do you do it, then?

No, Pony, that isn't true either. I'm starting to understand why you're called 'Pony'. Of course hunting would exist anyway - it's not about farmers isn't about a tiny minority of people who enjoy killing animals. Freaks, not farmers.

Where are you getting your 90% of farmers ate pro hunt*. is it from CA? How many farmers did they ask? In what region? What was the demographic? What sort of farmers?

I can't believe I'm debating with someone who went to a hare coursing event and thought there was nothing wrong with it.

Sigh.

so if no one enjoys the kill then why do it?

the pursuit leads to the kill

if i didnt enjoy that i would vote with my feet. as i do and will.

Well, vicar, if you define the precise split-second the fox dies as 'the kill' and everything else as 'great fun! For me! For the horse! For the fox, who just loves to run!', then you can pretend it's only the kill you don't enjoy, while the rest is legit to enjoy.

Or somesuch rubbish.

Check out the Countryside Alliance website! Go to the hunting section and check out articles such as www.countryside-alliance.org/ca/campaigns-hunting/the-hunting-act-has-failed-spectacularly also this is worth a look www.countryside-alliance.org.uk/ca/file/CASE_FOR_HUNTING2012.pdf

Nobody enjoys the kill - another LIE!

I've never been to a Hunt when a kill isn't celebrated at the time and afterwards. It's like watching fans of the losing football team if they don't kill a fox or deer. Sickos.

Your links don't work.

But no, thanks, I'm perfectly able to make up my own mind.

Or, for a real picture of what's going on, refer to the League Against Cruel Sports, here.

Itsall WHO enjoys the kill?? I have never met anyone who does

exactly!

So if no one who hunts enjoys the kill, why not do drag/trail hunting? The only difference is the kill.

You might want to check out this website pony

www.league.org.uk/content/294/Hunting

www.league.org.uk/content/294/Hunting

You need approx 90% minimum of farmers for any hunt to be able to operate over their country ie to cross the land effectively. Sigh, I have already explained why I enjoy hunting. It is better to go and see yourself. I don't think there is anything wrong with hunting and killing foxes. We will have to agree to differ.

If the Hunting Act was failing, the Countryside Alliance and other pro-hunting groups would be pleased, not complaining all the time!

x posted with tetley

I'm not wild about the league against cruel sports, FWIW. I think they are biased too. But then ... they're not arguing for killing things and enjoying it, so I can cut them some slack.