Fucking Fucking Tories want to make me homeless

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Just watching some Tory cunt on Newsnight. I live in a London Borough (and have done all my life) which has a lot of ordinary people in social housing, but is very fashionable among the rich. Apparently the Housing Trust (which was set up to house local people like me in the 1960s) should stop "indulging" people like me and be forced sell off my home. Where the fuck are we supposed to go? They are born with silver spoons in their mouths and don't have the faintest fucking idea about ordinary people.

Have you read the smallprint of the policy, or are you just sounding off after selectively hearing bits of the policy, to find in the cold morning light that it won't effect you?

I have just been watching a Tory from Hammersmith mouthing off on Newsnight. He specifically mentioned my local area and the fact that Housing Trusts "indulge" us. I didn't make it up as you imply, though I agree it is a more radical plan than that publically released today.

What was the context?? What examples did he give of indulgence?

No one in a house currently will be moved out. If a house in an expensive area comes free they will consider selling and buying 3 more in less expensive area. That's how I understood the social policy review.

What???? They are going to evict you to sell your house? Illegal surely!!! He must just be mouthing off, there can't be any legal weight behind this nonsense

Bunfight starting ....

Why should people subsidize you to live in an area that they cannot afford themselves? I can see the logic if you are a key worker in a job in central london. I can see some logic if you are working in low paid job within central London. However people who don't work have no need to live in London.

Lots of londoners move out to the suburbs because they cannot afford to live in London. Its not as if you are being asked to move to Australia.

i private rent in london. and i'm having to go homeless

That Housing Associations (Trusts) in North Kensington, should stop indulging people by letting them live in homes that should would fetch a lot on the open market and be forced to sell.

The day I heard it was that a vacant property could be sold to fund the building of more new properties.

Helping the housing situation and providing work for the flagging building trade.

I didn't see the programme you mention but if that's the way it was worded then he has made himself sound a twat.

From my viewing I'd say it was the left wing woman misrepresenting the policy completely and making these points and not the Tory. Though he was a typical Tory. The argument is there are very expensive houses in London which are worth £million and these could be sold when they come free, rather than house another family. The money could be used in the same borough to buy 3 cheaper houses and house 3 families on the waiting list.

I am neither left nor right (nor liberal) so I can sit on fence and get splinters in my backside.

Giraffe that's how I understood it. As and when houses in these areas were vacated (ie tenants chose to move on) then the boroughs should sell. No forcible evictions.

Yep, I thought they said that more valuable vacant properties would be sold rather than moving people into them, in order to pay for more houses. I don't think they can decide that your house is too good for you and kick you out.

Really Tired - no-one fucking subsidises me - get your fucking facts straight. I pay a fair rent but not the £1000 pw flats in my road could fetch as company lets. I fucking work and DH fucking works in London. I come from my local area and think I have a right to live here.

Other posters, I am quoting from what the cunt said, not the "official" policy published today.

I live in social housing in west central scotland and no one are allowed to buy their rented social housing tenancy homes any more because of the desperate need for social housing, which I 100% agree with, but there are loads of old people living in 3 bed houses because thats where their mum lived and raised them, and of course people move/die and leave 1 elderly tenant in a 3 bed house and as long as they pay their rent nothing can be done, Ok yes it was their family home,but should't another family get the chance too? Our landlords have 700 on the waiting list and about 40 homes become available every year. Its a crying shame, young families don't have a chance. My friend has 3 kids, 1 on the way, and 1 has cancer and she is living in a 1 bed flat, her man works full time, its bloody shocking.

Social Policy man on BBC news said that they thought they could help 700,000 this way (out of currently 2 million on waiting lists)

Who are they selling it to then?
Won't it just result in more segregation because in theory all the really wanky areas in london will have no normal
Income people left in them.
Surely it will intensify sink area problems?

omfgkillmenow - I agree, but you haven't just seen someone on Newsnight saying that your flat in your specific area is an "indulgence" and should be sold off.

Giraffe I understood it as you had.

I am not in favour of making anybody homeless but nor am I in favour of subsidising people to live where I couldn't afford to live myself.

I watched it too. And earlier more reasoned discussions of this suggested policy.

There is no spare affordable land in my local area and no derelict sites (that aren't already owned by developers.) Where are they going to build these new homes to house all these people?

Basically if you need help with housing then you don't deserve to live in nicer areas.

Those who can afford to live in the nicer areas can sleep safely in their bed's knowing that they don't have to share a pavement with the riff raff!

Disgusting.

Provided no one is being evicted, I think it is perfectly reasonable. No one has a right to live anywhere they want, otherwise most of us would choose somewhere else!

If it helps, I did see on twitter the suggestion they sell off downing street to build more homes

Why is it disgusting to say only one family should live in a million pound house instead of two families in £500k houses 4 streets away. Because that's what london is like and that's what is being suggested.

Viperidae - in what particular way are you subsidising me (if that is what you meant). My home was bought by a Housing Trust in the 1970s when properties were cheaper. We have paid a fair rent since we lived here- more than many private tenants in other parts of the country?