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Fucking Fucking Tories want to make me homeless

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BeingFluffy · 20/08/2012 22:49

Just watching some Tory cunt on Newsnight. I live in a London Borough (and have done all my life) which has a lot of ordinary people in social housing, but is very fashionable among the rich. Apparently the Housing Trust (which was set up to house local people like me in the 1960s) should stop "indulging" people like me and be forced sell off my home. Where the fuck are we supposed to go? They are born with silver spoons in their mouths and don't have the faintest fucking idea about ordinary people.

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crackcrackcrak · 20/08/2012 23:17

No one is being evicted...........yet

crackcrackcrak · 20/08/2012 23:18

I also wonder how this will tie in with the cap in HB

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BeingFluffy · 20/08/2012 23:19

scarlettsmummy2 - yes if people have lived in an area all their lives, work, pay a fair rent and took on a tenancy on the understanding it was permanent, they do have a right. It is not necessarily the area I would choose, even if some woudl see it as so fashinable and desirable because the slebs say so, but it is home and the only one I have.

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JaquelineHyde · 20/08/2012 23:22

What the goverment should concentrate on is the regulation of the private rental market.

If the rocketing rental prices were addressed then not so many people would need social housing whether on a sink estate (where alot of people think benefit claiments belong) or in Kensington (where I suspect a quite a few private landlords live)

scarlettsmummy2 · 20/08/2012 23:23

Being fluffy- but you are not being evicted so what is the issue? If you were being turfed out on your ear and forced to live miles away from your family and friends fair enough but that isn't the case at all. If this policy frees up the cash to build more social housing then surely that is a good thing.

omfgkillmenow · 20/08/2012 23:27

Being fluffy, your home may be worth £squillions on the market now, but it was designed for social housing and should stay social housing. As long as you do not have spare rooms I think its completely fair that you should stay put. I guess that none of your neighbours will be moving out any time soon anyway, so they wont have much stock to sell anyway. I think if people in your area want to move then they should do a mutual exchange and keep these houses for social tenants. Maggie sold off most of the housing stock and never bothered to rebuild using the money. I wouldn't want to live in London, but if its your home then as long as you arent taking the piss, are working and paying your rent then they have no right to try to wheedle you out. Stand your ground girl.

MardyFish · 20/08/2012 23:30

AFAIK they are just saying that when a house becomes vacant, if it's worth more than the average for the area, they will sell it.

Which is not evicting anyone.

msnaughty · 20/08/2012 23:32

im a it confused... private rent in london is alot of money so people often need help with their rent. but then people are saying you should not live in a london house if you cant afford it. why should we help pay for you to live there.

but then its ok for the people who have been lucky enough to get social houses to stay in london

msnaughty · 20/08/2012 23:35

i'm wondering if the private landlords in london will start renting their houses out per room. i (think) they can make more money that way??

omfgkillmenow · 20/08/2012 23:36

what would you like ms naughty? All us peeps on minimum wage to be stuck in some high rise out of the city? Social housing exists to give decent blue collar workers the same chances as the rest of society. You seem to think that the classes should not mix?

cutegorilla · 20/08/2012 23:37

You are subsidised by the fact that money has been tied up to enable you to live where you do. If your home was sold that money could be used to house more families. Why do people have the right to live in an area because they always have? How long do you have to have lived there to get that right? The vast majority of people in this country who are not subsidised do not have that right. They have to compromise between what they can afford and where they can find work. Hence my dh, who earns very good money but yet not enough to afford us a home in London spends 3-4 hours every day commuting. I have spent my entire life moving around to follow jobs. First my parents, then mine and dh's. That's just normal to me and tbh to most people I know.

omfgkillmenow · 20/08/2012 23:38

Also do not forget that once you'se lot reach retirement you will have paid off mortgage and have a million pound house to leave to your weans. We will be paying rent for life.

AGiraffeOnTheDivingBoard · 20/08/2012 23:40

That's not what's being said. They are saying there are houses worth £milllions and that money could be used to house families in houses in the same borough.

I'd like to live in NW3 (camden borough) or SW3 (Chelsea) but I can't because the properties there are ridiculously high. £4 million for a 4 bedroom. London house prices are out of control and if money can be moved around to help more people off the waiting list then it's sensible to look at options.

No one is proposing the alternative is high rise misery. Just saying that maybe social housing now worth million because of our crazy house prices in London might serve to help more than one family. No one will be evicted. That's what I've understood from watching it today.

omfgkillmenow · 20/08/2012 23:40

do you not understand that all you are doing is pushing house prices higher and higher? We need social housing, or else where the hell do you expect your cleaners/maids and butlers to live????

msnaughty · 20/08/2012 23:42

no no lol, sorry i did not mean it to come across like that. what i mean is. i private rent. in london and i get help with my rent. because the rent is to high im exspected to be turfed out of london. whilst someone who is on social housing do not have to move out of their area. so i think their should be more affordable housing so that people do not get turfed out. I'm actually being evicted because of the changes. so i have no idea where me and my kids will end up

cutegorilla · 20/08/2012 23:42

Social housing exists to give decent blue collar workers the same chances as the rest of society.

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Except it's not the same chance as the rest of society if it's providing a home in an area that the vast majority of people could never afford to live. If it were the same chance then those people would have to live somewhere cheaper like the rest of us.

niceguy2 · 20/08/2012 23:43

Downing Street backed a report by think tank Policy Exchange which said selling high value homes when they become vacant (source BBC News)

I don't think that sounds unfair providing the money is used to provide more social housing.

Noone is making anyone homeless and it sounds fairly sensible. My only concern is that the money is not spent as it is intended.

But fuck it just believe what you want, don't worry about the facts. Hating the Tories is a sport anyway.

cutegorilla · 20/08/2012 23:44

Also do not forget that once you'se lot reach retirement you will have paid off mortgage and have a million pound house to leave to your weans.

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Not true for those stuck in private rented.

omfgkillmenow · 20/08/2012 23:45

I don't live in London, maybe it is not fair of me to comment. My house is 3 bedroom (two double, one single) and family bathroom upstairs, long landing, downstairs dining room, good sized kitchen, large living room and WC, large entrance hallway, front and back garden (private) , parking space to front of house. Would you Londeners like to hazard a guess at my rent?

Redbindy · 20/08/2012 23:46

Hating the tories is not a sport, it's part of any reasonable persons DNA.

AGiraffeOnTheDivingBoard · 20/08/2012 23:46

Eh? Everyone who lives in private accommodation has a butler? And lives in million pound houses?

And why shouldn't getting more people off the housing waiting be a good thing?

msnaughty · 20/08/2012 23:46

so agiraffe: in blunt terms are they saying this council house in north london is now worth 3 hundred thousand. so we will sell it. and build 20 council houses to house 20 familys.

if thats what it is in simple terms i think thats a good idea

cutegorilla · 20/08/2012 23:47

do you not understand that all you are doing is pushing house prices higher and higher? We need social housing, or else where the hell do you expect your cleaners/maids and butlers to live????

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Not my cleaners and maids. I can't afford to live there either. The rich people who can afford it will surely find a way to make sure they have the staff they need. Frankly the staff requirements of the stupidly rich don't really worry me!

msnaughty · 20/08/2012 23:50

sounds like social cleansing to me

BeatriceBean · 20/08/2012 23:51

We had to move out of london as we couldn't afford the rent of a dodgy damp flat above a shop on an ok (out of london ok) salary. When we moved my daughters eczema magically cleared up :( Bless her.

Now my husband has to commute several hours a day or stays away several nights in a row.

I does seem a little unfair. We aren't the only ones who are in "good" jobs and still can't afford to live in London.

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