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Police Interfering With Democracy

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compfan · 10/01/2011 11:44

Oldham By election BNP Candidate removed physically by police from a hustings debate so he could not take part. In the general election they came 4th in that seat. And we preach to other countries about democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????

UK POLICE STATE.

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dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 20:53

Compfan, give me your email address, I'll email you!!

KalokiMallow · 15/01/2011 21:22

So is it people with different IQ's you object to?

As for it being black africans, does that meant you acknowledge there is no difference between white and black english people?

Please do explain to me..

"you hold nature in contempt"
uh yeah..

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 21:25

What is the point of my reply - it will be deleted- sorry!!!

KalokiMallow · 15/01/2011 21:36

If your reply is logical and reasonable I can't see why it would be deleted.

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 21:39

It will be deleted KalokiMallow -sorry! but it will be!!!

compfan · 15/01/2011 21:41

Your genetics doesn't change just because you move to someone elses country and have your children there.

If you moved to Japan, assuming you are white, and had children there, would your children be japanese and as a result have the japanese higher IQ, NO.

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Niceguy2 · 15/01/2011 21:41

Hi Dobie

You are right. He doesn't have to answer our questions. But if he is serious about the BNP being the party of the British people and that voters should take them seriously and that what happened in his first YouTube clip was so wrong, you'd think he'd be happy to answer a very simple basic question and how the BNP would have been different.

Isn't that what politics is about? Offering solutions and alternatives?

The fact he refuses to or is ducking the question just shows he has no clue and no answers.

compfan · 15/01/2011 21:45

ffs, you've been going on and on about me answering a question. I thought I had made my opinion quite clear about the husting and what should of happened I even flippin provided a link to the electoral commissions PDF on best practice for electoral hustings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GrinAngry

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Niceguy2 · 15/01/2011 21:47

You know what? I started to write another post about racism and the BNP. But the words of my mate (who by the way is Indian Shock Wink) jumped into my head.

"Who is the bigger idiot? The idiot....or the person trying to reason with him?"

Niceguy2 · 15/01/2011 21:49

oops, cross post.

Well Compfan, assume I'm too dumb and missed it. Would you mind summing it up for me?

Just to help you out to save you searching, the question was:

  1. If an uninvited and unwanted person came to a BNP meeting and refused to leave, what would you have done differently?

and my supplementary question:

  1. In your own personal opinion, should immigrants be forced to leave the UK?
dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 21:57

Seriously Compfan and nice guy. you are both right, I like you both because you are both nice, none aggressive and someone I can talk with; I've never pretended I know everything about every situation, you both know that, of course!!!

I totally believe in you Compfan, because my cousins moved to China for Clarkes shoeware, and although they are heavily involved in Clarkes (of course) neither of them ever venture into real China because they have seen the very REAL hardship of the Chinese people, and have turned away from that lifestyle, which as any human being would, they have distanced themselves from that, let us not pretend we would#t/ .

Nice guy- I beleive you are a nice fella, why wouldn't I? I've been married to a middle eastern guy, never turned out so good for our children, never mind, as so often is the case , plenty of nice white men fill the gap and show the babies what is expected of them in life, showed my 'white' son how to be a good boy, shouldn't have to though!!! where was daddy? ,

more concerned about his application for a passport, maybe you don't like that, but that is the truth!!!

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 22:01

Compfan - what ever you write, it will be deleted, email me [email protected]

KalokiMallow · 15/01/2011 22:15

"Your genetics doesn't change just because you move to someone elses country and have your children there."

I'm talking about being born there. Being from generations also born there.

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 22:29

That is right, if I move to China, and have my babies there, they will still be ethnic English, they won't become Chinese just because I have my babies in China, Just because Pakistani have babies here, never those babies become English - don't you understand??????

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 22:35

Damn, why does it feel so hard, to make you understand!!!

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 23:19

Compfan email me!!

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 23:19

Compfan email me!!

compfan · 15/01/2011 23:39

I'm not emailing no one!!Smile

Some British families were in India for well over hundred years, (before they got chucked out in 1947. Strange isn't is how it's all one way traffic. Perhaps you should look into Indias immigration laws!) When they left, if they had only married other white euroepans then the fact their families had been born and died there would make absolutely no difference to their DNA or genetics. Likewise with people in the UK who are not indigenous to these islands.

  1. If an uninvited and unwanted person came to a BNP meeting and refused to leave, what would you have done differently?

I have never been to a BNP meeting, however I am aware they do have people turn up to their meetings. They are welcome to attend and ask questions if they are sensible and polite. So there would be no reason for them to be required to leave. Unlike intolerant lefties, nationalists are made of sterner stuff and are quite happy to hear opposing opinions without having a hissy fit.

and my supplementary question:

  1. In your own personal opinion, should immigrants be forced to leave the UK?

The question is here on what mandate have millions been allowed to settle here in the last 4 decades. If the British people had of been given a referendum on it before the floodgates opened they would have overwhelmingly voted NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If every person who has arrived here since 1997 was put on ships tomorrow it would make my year. Grin

It would be superb.

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dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 23:41

Why you are so proud to say your not gonna email me ok fine Smile

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 23:44

and as a referendum, I think everyone in my family, well over 200 people, would have said, deport em'!

compfan · 16/01/2011 00:00

The only real democracy in Europe is Switzerland where they have direct democracy, in other word referendums on loads of issues.

They recently voted to deport foreign born criminals and another vote in favour of banning minarets.

If the Britis people had have been able to decide their fate via referendums this country would be so much better and so many people living here would be none the wiser still talking their native language in a village thousands of miles away and we would control parliament not jsut rubber stamp dictats from Brussels.

The LibLabCon politicians would never allow it, you see they don't really care about democracy they just care about power.

The reason the BNP gets treat the way it does by the media elite and politicians is because they are the ONLY real opposition to their plans.

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sarah293 · 16/01/2011 15:36

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BaroqueAroundTheClock · 16/01/2011 15:45

so, are my children English???

They were born here - though their father is African........

just wondering like - if you're gonna deport 'em and all - you gonna send me (white, English born and bred) "back" with 'em - or leave 'em to fend for themselves in a true dictatorship where the police don't even let the main opposition hold meetings without interfering and beating their supporters up???????

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 16/01/2011 15:47

actually scrap that - I'm not sure I am English - pretty sure when my dad did a family tree he found a couple of centuries again his "Northern blooded" family were actually from Europe.

'ok - am I going "back" to Europe - or "back" to Africa???

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 16/01/2011 15:51

and I do hope we're going to send all the White Americans and Australians, and New Zealanders and South Africans back home too..........gotta make it fair and all don't we????

Though we'd better hang fire and hold our breath as the 5 million English expats get sent back here. Plus of course probably several million 2nd/3rd/4th generation folks who have English bloody but are currently accepted as being "from" wherever they're currently living.

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