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Police Interfering With Democracy

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compfan · 10/01/2011 11:44

Oldham By election BNP Candidate removed physically by police from a hustings debate so he could not take part. In the general election they came 4th in that seat. And we preach to other countries about democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????

UK POLICE STATE.

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dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 00:11

Well those are my opinions - I do think the English are an ethnic group; I did go to A&E and was surrounded by a bunch of very smelly people, etc, If that makes me a racist, well then yes I guess I am!! Hmm

And I will say it again, every body, every race is racist to an extent - and I know this for a fact (and have had racial abuse at myself) so try and stop being a do-gooder please!!

compfan · 15/01/2011 00:15

Thanks dobiegirl, yeah this board seems to have a heavy presence of right nasty sanctimonuous, condescending hags.

I sometimes think this whole 'racist' thing is simply a way of small non impressive people to make themselves feel good about themselves, as though by calling someone racist they immediately rank alongsinde Schindler. So rightous, so morally perfect. BOLLOCKS.

I usually find these liberal proffessional types like Baders paw, Snorbs, PC Tutu, nasty sidekickj kolimoli or whatever shes called ,who cry about poverty thousands of miles away are the sort who turn their noses up at people in this country who are less well off. Chavs as they like to call them. They also are the sort to ignore their elderly neighbours. It is my honest experience that those that they would deem 'racist' are so much kinder and open hearted, they are more tolerant of other opinions and don't get upset, have a better sense of humour and history, and they are not as snidey and wear their hearts on their sleeves. They are patriots who love their country and call a spade a spade.

Here is a perfect example BNP member and retired GP doctor Charles Mather answering the question 'Why the opposition to the BNP?' Ladies why not get yourself a cuppa, throw of your prejedice and be open minded for just 10 minutes and listen to what he has to say.

Here is Charles Mather a retired GP doctor and BNP member who asks

'Why Opposition to BNP? '

part one

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXO4tH4jRh4

part two

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SehEv5Hqvs0

Then ask yourself is this man a 'racist nazi thug' or an honest man who wants the best for his countryman. If you decide the latter the next question is, who is it that has been telling me all BNP members are 'knuckle dragging thugs' and why? Perhaps the Doc has the answer!

Your right dobiegirl I am wasting my time here, so many other worthy things to be doing. So this will be my last post, let them wallow and bathe in their own glory...
LOSERS.[.GrinGrin

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Snorbs · 15/01/2011 00:18

So you're saying that the people I saw wearing NF and BNP badges while shouting "Paki loving cunts!" at me and the rest of the ANL demonstrators weren't racists?

Gosh. I think that would come as a surprise even to them let alone anyone else.

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 00:26

Thank you Compfan.

I agree with you, the hatred and name calling for anyone who doesn't agree with thier line of thinking is positively scary and I really mean that - vicious and scary!

I wish I could articulate my thoughts as well as you do, alas my intelligence is not so good (must be a secret knuckle dragger, eh?] and I must agree with you I have heard multitudes of people both in Brum and up here in one of the old mill towns talking about how this country has gone to the dogs!

So I know for a FACT you're not making this up! Anyway good on you because I noticed all the way through that, you didn't turn on or attack anyone personally so in my eyes that makes you a real gent or lady, whichever it is!! Smile

Snorbs · 15/01/2011 00:29

Yay, more YouTube videos from compfan! Woohoo!

So now you're back, what is the answer to the question "What would you do if someone invited themselves to your meeting and then refused to leave?" I know the BNP's past tactics is to violently assault them but what would you do?

You are allowed to answer that in video form if you are more comfortable with that.

Incidentally, when is the BNP going to approach the Electoral Commission and insist that they investigate the events that transpired at that hustings? As it was such a serious situation that it threatens democracy itself then I feel it important that the Electoral Commission is informed.

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 00:29

Oh my God - you're ANL - that explains it all - what fucking horrible people they are!!

I should have guessed at that with your awful posts!!

Let me just tell you how much abuse I've had from those 'paki-cunts' as you call them, loads, tried to groom my 15 year old daughter, You've been conned my friend!!

Snorbs · 15/01/2011 00:37

Oh dear dobiegirl, and you were doing so well at the whole reading-and-comprehension thing.

I didn't call anyone a "paki-cunt". I was reporting what was shouted at me (and others) by a bunch of people in the 90s. I thought those people were racists given the whole racist chanting thing but you seem to be sure that I've "never met any real racists".

Guess you're wrong about that as well as so many other things.

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 00:43

You really think you're something else!

Last post to you, I'm sure you'll need the last word -you belonging to the righteous, virtuous ANF Grin

Guess you're wrong - you've never met a real racist or you wouldn't be chatting away on here, I'm sure!! Your head would be a hundred yards away from your body!!

compfan · 15/01/2011 00:56

mmmm, perhaps that won't be my last post.

Thanks Dobiegirl, don't ever allow these far left anti free speech bullies to stop you from saying what you think as I say a 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a commie/marxist/liberal/pc type.

Thanks for your comments about me not being insulting I am more interested in FACTS. You are SO right, I was taken aback by their immediate snidiness as soon as I had posted this thread. ANL, just like the UAF, here we can see one of them throwing a dart at Nick griffin on parliament square,

can you beleive that despite being caught on camera the police refused to arrest the man... they are more interested in removing peaceful candidates from legal parties from husting meetings.

Dobiegirl watch the vids of Dr Charles Mather when you get a minute, links above.

As the saying from the bible goes

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE

Smile

I think I'll give this board a rest, however, as you they all seem to love my youtube choices, perhaps I'll call in when I've got a juicy one for you all to watch.

Yours
Compfan

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ChippingIn · 15/01/2011 01:35

Is that a threat or a promise.

Badgers you need to name change now - I think PatienceOfASaint is about right. 135 posts and still no answer to your question :)

KalokiMallow · 15/01/2011 01:37

Compfan "... I dont think"
Yes, that's the crux of the problem.

KalokiMallow · 15/01/2011 01:39

"who cry about poverty thousands of miles away are the sort who turn their noses up at people in this country who are less well off."

So I turn my nose up at those less well off? How would you describe those people exactly? Would you put homeless people in that bracket? Those reliant on benefits in order to eat?

Just curious.

pastapestofor6 · 15/01/2011 06:37

Arghhhhhhhh badgerspaws snorbs kaloki et al high five! Seriously compfan and dobiegirl you are of course perfectly entitled to say and think whatever you like, thank god we don't have to agree with you. Hope not hate!

Snorbs · 15/01/2011 10:50

dobiegirl, I'm intrigued that even though you claim to not know anything about the BNP even though you seem to be a dim bigot their core demographic, you knew exactly who I meant when I mentioned the ANL. Been hanging around NF/BNP/EDL types much? Particularly as you seem to know so much about "real racists"?

But to ease your troubled mind, I'm not an ANL member. Never have been. Never saw the need. I did go along to a few of their demos in the mid-90s and I have put money in the bucket because I think what they were doing was important. I went to quite a few demos and marches for various good causes during that time.

But let's not allow facts to get in the way of your delusions, shall we.

Niceguy2 · 15/01/2011 12:12

Compfan, I admire your ability to continually shout from the rooftops how persecuted the BNP are and how the injustice they suffer from being allowed to participate in "democracy", yet you seem totally unable to answer 1 simple question. Oh and I note you ducked my 2nd question too.

If you want the BNP to be taken more seriously you need to be able to answer at least basic questions.

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 13:15

What delusions?

English are an ethnic group and I went to the hospital and was besieged by a terrible smell!! What about that is racist?

And why shouldn't I know anything about BNP, ANL, NF, UAF,EDL - who ever? Do you think it's only your right to know and join in with these groups! Ha ha - You really think you're a big cheese don't ya.

I think Compfan is right it's your sort who shout racist at folks and think it makes you some kind of Oskar Schindler - make you feel superior does it!! LOL. Hows about you sponsor a little baby in a far off land who needs medical care and clean water instead of knocking round with thugs thinking it makes you look hard. It doesn't!!!

Maybe you ain't so clever after all.

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 13:18

NIceguy -

News for ya mate - he don't need to answer any of your questions!!Maybe he doesn't care whether you take the BNP seriously or not!!

Some people are never going to believe in the BNP or thier principles, and OBVIOUSLY you're one of them - so what's the point in wasting his breath!!

That is only my opinion by the way, which in 2011 I think I'm still allowed!! (for the mo)

Snorbs · 15/01/2011 13:27

What gave away your racism was comments in those other threads about how you "feel safer with our own kind". Personal safety is not a matter of ethnicity - as your oh-so charming comment about how a "real racist" would've attacked me by now - but about individual people. My "own kind" are humans. Most humans are fine, some are arseholes, but that's regardless of colour of skin or country of origin. Your "own kind", in your eyes, appears to only be white English people.

In summary, then, I think your a racist because you hold racist views.

Snorbs · 15/01/2011 13:28

Oh, and by the way, I do give money to charities both here and abroad. Do you?

KalokiMallow · 15/01/2011 16:00

"I think Compfan is right it's your sort who shout racist at folks and think it makes you some kind of Oskar Schindler - make you feel superior does it!! LOL. Hows about you sponsor a little baby in a far off land who needs medical care and clean water instead of knocking round with thugs thinking it makes you look hard. It doesn't!!!"

And you know we don't? Hmm

I hate racists, it makes no sense to be racist. I mean, have you done any biology at all? We are all the same. So all this crap about "own kind" is bollocks. How far do you want to separate the human race? Refusing to have anything to do with anyone based on their skin colour is as daft as refusing to have anything to do with someone because of their eye colour.

As for religion being used to separate people? All religions have similarities, at base they are all about caring for others and living as well as you can. They just have different decorations on them. If you are only going to want to be surrounded by people who share your beliefs, then you have two choices. Do you generalise (in which case you have to take into account the similarities with all religions) or specify (in which case even spending time with people of your own religion is flawed - Christianity for example can vary in specifics from church to church). And that doesn't take into account different political beliefs within groups of the same religion.

Or are you justifying it by religions with extremists operating in their name? Because that rules out all religions. And political views. Etc, Etc.

So who are "your people" who you prefer to be surrounded by? Just how much like you do they need to be?

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 19:13

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Snorbs · 15/01/2011 19:29

I don't think I need add anything to that particular display of bigotry.

dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 19:39

Oh behave!!

compfan · 15/01/2011 20:45

'I mean, have you done any biology at all? We are all the same'

No but Dr Watson has, you know Dr Watson, Nobel Prize winner and the man who discovered DNA, he said black africans as a population have lower IQs that is a result of genetics not geography.

Of course there was uproar when he said that and people with B grades in Biology GCSE screamed racist, racist and demanded his life be ruined.

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2677098.ece

It is also scientifically proven that people prefer their own kind, their kith and kin and that applies to every race and creed on earth. Its simple laws of nature, but as someone clearly influenced by marxism, you hold nature in contempt.

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dobiegirl · 15/01/2011 20:51

Yeah but Compfan, I have a B grade in Biology and I believe you!!!