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Westministenders: Its the waiting that kills you

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RedToothBrush · 05/11/2020 19:22

Just waiting.

Talks between Frost and Barnier still unresolved issues. There are rumours but 'all without evidence' (the new in phrase on BBC news tonight) that the UK is waivering.

Less that two months to go.

And there is the small matter of what happens in the US than might influence events.

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RedToothBrush · 07/11/2020 16:44

Even Fox has now called it.

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Sostenueto · 07/11/2020 16:45

Biden wins apparently! And the orange one is playing golf! His lawyers about to make a statement.

RedToothBrush · 07/11/2020 16:45

And Fox has also called Nevada to add insult to injury!!!

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Shrillharridan · 07/11/2020 16:50

Cheers folks!
🍸

QueenOfThorns · 07/11/2020 16:54

Sooooo are we now going to see a resignation and a pardon for the orange criminal from President Pence, as predicted in September? www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-lose-2020-election-biden-polls-predictions-michael-cohen-b421047.html

Shrillharridan · 07/11/2020 16:55

I can't see him staying on
He's lazy and insane

RedToothBrush · 07/11/2020 17:10
Westministenders: Its the waiting that kills you
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52andblue · 07/11/2020 17:11

Is it REALLY TRUE???

Is it DEFO that Biden has won???

52andblue · 07/11/2020 17:12

I won't believe any other source but Westministenders!!! Grin

DGRossetti · 07/11/2020 17:16

Back to Brexit ... and I'll snip this at the most crucial point - that there are perceptions amongst the people taking power that Brexit is bad for America

That is not a great stone to have to roll uphill.

I suspect there will be some squeaky bums around the ERG at the moment.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/anthony-gardner-warning-over-brexit-5668692

Joe Biden adviser warns 'in almost every area Brexit would be negative for US'

An adviser to Joe Biden, tipped to become the next UK ambassador to the US, has issued a warning over Brexit - saying in almost every area it would have negative consequences for his country.

Anthony Gardner, a former American ambassador to the EU, told an audience in Germany that Brexit was the "biggest own-goal" he had ever seen.

Speaking at ESMT business school in Berlin, he predicted that Biden would use his first day to commit America to working with the European Union.

“If Biden is elected I believe quickly, perhaps first day, [there will be a] declaration of support for the European Union, declaration of support for European integration, declaration of support in favour of NATO, the lynchpin of transatlantic alliance, which has been weakened because of this administration's policies.”

In a warning to Britain, the former diplomat pointed to the negative consequences Brexit will have on Britain and the EU - and in particular the US.

“I won't talk about Brexit, I've lived it, everyone's bored by it, Europe needs to move on.

“It's the biggest own-goal that I've seen in my lifetime.

“All of the analysis that we did under the Obama administration, which were intensive, we looked at all the areas of our interaction with Europe.

“Our conclusion was that in almost every area Brexit would be negative for the United States, for Europe and for the UK. That analysis I believe has proven to be correct.

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RedToothBrush · 07/11/2020 17:17

Just think Trump has even had his golf ruined today!

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Spudlet · 07/11/2020 17:19

I don’t normally post on these threads, but I’m so pleased for the USA. I remember after the Rancid Satsuma was elected, sitting with DS, who was only a few months old, on my lap, and weeping because between that and Brexit, I felt like the world had gone insane and I’d done the wrong thing in bringing a little baby into it. Now I feel like there’s a little glimmer of hope again. Not that this solves everything - but thank goodness anyway.

I’ll go back to intermittent lurking now Grin

RedToothBrush · 07/11/2020 17:25

President of Ireland @PresidentIRL
“I have conveyed my best wishes to President-elect Joe Biden, wishing him and the American people every good fortune for his term in office and congratulating ...Vice President-elect Kamala Harris on her historic achievement."

Full statement:
t.co/YCxk7eWE47?amp=1

@10DowningStreet
SO FAR SILENCE

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RedToothBrush · 07/11/2020 17:27

Meanwhile

George Osborne @George_Osborne
Yes. Whether you’re on the left or right: moderation, integrity, seriousness and the mainstream are back.

Which is slightly galling and laughable. But also a big dig.

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Peregrina · 07/11/2020 17:31

I was just going to ask whether Downing Street had commented. There must be a few people there absolutely shitting themselves right now.

DGRossetti · 07/11/2020 17:32

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RedToothBrush · 07/11/2020 17:35

Which world leaders will Biden phone first. And where on the list will the UK be?

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DGRossetti · 07/11/2020 17:37

@Peregrina

I was just going to ask whether Downing Street had commented. There must be a few people there absolutely shitting themselves right now.
I missed the bit I just posted, else I would have posted it 5 days ago (although it would have been squirrelled as "they haven't won" ..)

If team Biden are going to have a BrexitSceptic administration (I have just coined that word and will be charging for it's use in future) then Boris problems have just gotten a whole lot worse. They may not want any deal with the UK, if they think it will harm the US.

Where's Nigel ?

Just had a ping with my Tennessee dwelling brother. All quiet in his (literal) neck of the woods.

DGRossetti · 07/11/2020 17:38

@RedToothBrush

Which world leaders will Biden phone first. And where on the list will the UK be?
Surely they call him ?

I imagine he'd take a call from Her Madge. Boris on the other hand might be in line behind all the EU heads of state - as per the potential new ambassadors suggestion.

PawFives · 07/11/2020 17:38

YES! Finally! 🥂

KittCat · 07/11/2020 17:40

Hurrah!!!! 🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾

DGRossetti · 07/11/2020 17:42

It was 48 years ago today — Nov. 7, 1972 — that Biden won his first election for U.S. Senate. He’s gone from one of the youngest senators ever elected to the oldest president ever elected.

RedToothBrush · 07/11/2020 17:43

Mark Drakeford @fmwales
Congratulations to @JoeBiden on winning the presidential election in a record turnout. And to @KamalaHarris; the first female, black and Indian-American to hold the country’s 2nd highest office. Look forward to working with you to build on the strong links between Wales and USA.

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RedToothBrush · 07/11/2020 17:46

Nicola Sturgeon @NicolaSturgeon
Congratulations from Scotland to President-Elect Joe Biden and to history-making Vice President-Elect Kamala Harris

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DGRossetti · 07/11/2020 17:47

I wonder how Boris clown act will work solo on the world stage now ?

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