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Westministenders: Its the waiting that kills you

987 replies

RedToothBrush · 05/11/2020 19:22

Just waiting.

Talks between Frost and Barnier still unresolved issues. There are rumours but 'all without evidence' (the new in phrase on BBC news tonight) that the UK is waivering.

Less that two months to go.

And there is the small matter of what happens in the US than might influence events.

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DGRossetti · 13/11/2020 16:06

I wonder what other companies hire people on the basis "I couldn't get a degree because the establishment was afraid of the truth I spoke" ?

Asking for a friend, you understand.

Worth remembering that the Peter Principle states that the real work in any hierarchical organisation is actually undertaken by the people who have not yet reached their level of incompetence. I guess with some powerpoint magic I could whip up a series of slides that show as the ratio of competent:incompetent approaches parity, the organisation becomes less viable and it it exceeds 1, they are not long for this world.

I wonder what the ratio of the UK government is right now ? 1.1, 1.2 ? And what would Cummings purported* departure do to it ?

*Believe it when I see it.

Emilyontmoor · 13/11/2020 16:09

LQ I hated science at school, why should I listen to you
that scientist really should have employed a left hook.

Quite, and I actually did hate science at school, the life sciences, the ones that smell bad) at least, loved Physics. But that if anything makes me want to listen more! (Not that I have any choice in this household Grin, by somehow unwittingly and unpredictably having nurtured a Scientist I have learnt so much more than I ever did at school........)

Emilyontmoor · 13/11/2020 16:12

I wonder what other companies hire people on the basis "I couldn't get a degree because the establishment was afraid of the truth I spoke" ? In my direct experience a pre requisite of the Branson organisation.

DGRossetti · 13/11/2020 16:15

I hated science at school, why should I listen to you

Then what the fuck are you doing here ?

Many, many years ago, I read a depressing article about how bright kids had learned to hide it so well they were marked down as a way to avoid bullying. Especially boys.

I have no tolerance for deliberate ignorance. None. If you choose to be ignorant then you are any number of epithets that mean "thick". And here's here a lot of Brexiteers let themselves down by their heroic continued ignorance.

DGRossetti · 13/11/2020 16:17

@Emilyontmoor

I wonder what other companies hire people on the basis "I couldn't get a degree because the establishment was afraid of the truth I spoke" ? In my direct experience a pre requisite of the Branson organisation.
Not the same Branson that is relying on science to get him into space, surely ?

Mind you, it's almost a given that apart from the airline, Branson dropped anything with "Virgin" in the name years ago.

Now I remember, there was a touch of the Trumps about our own beloved Branson. Who can remember him on a tank in New York taking Virgin Cola to the enemy ?

BoreOfWhabylon · 13/11/2020 17:22

Cummings has gone

twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1327299016300896257?s=21

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 13/11/2020 17:22

Cummings has left no 10 (as per LK)

TokyoSushi · 13/11/2020 17:26

Oooooh 👀

DGRossetti · 13/11/2020 17:28

Not quite sure why this is so underreported, but well worth a watch. TL;DR is a warning letter to HMRC from ASM.

Blunt covers it.

Whenwillow · 13/11/2020 17:29

How do we thing Johnson will manage without him? Will we be getting his resignation next? All seems to have happened very fast!

Zixxy · 13/11/2020 17:37

New balls (thread) please soon lol.

DGRossetti · 13/11/2020 17:39

So what's the real story ? What's being buried ?

ListeningQuietly · 13/11/2020 17:40

DGR
THe interviewer was a BBC TV twonk who had been sent to cover the event for regional news
its still makes me angry 15 years later

ListeningQuietly · 13/11/2020 17:42

Cummings seen carrying a box out of Downing street
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/13/dominic-cummings-has-already-left-job-at-no-10-reports
not the contents of his desk
Boris Johnson's head
prove me wrong Grin

DGRossetti · 13/11/2020 17:45

Cummings existence only made sense in a world where Trump was still POTUS.

Pepperwort · 13/11/2020 17:56

@SabrinaThwaite

Sam Coates *@Sky* suggesting that the Vote Leave bunch in No 10 worried that “Remainers” are pushing for a 12 month Brexit extension?
Hang on... I'm putting together the above, and public acknowledgement that this is a logistical shit show together, and getting both the time period for an extension and the way they will spin it in public.
borntobequiet · 13/11/2020 17:56

@DGRossetti

Cummings existence only made sense in a world where Trump was still POTUS.
This
Pepperwort · 13/11/2020 18:05

If I'm eventually proven correct: there will be extreme Brexiteers who believe it, not many, but a few. And who will be angry about not leaving. Damned if I see why remainers should take the bloody flak. It hasn't happened yet though.

DGRossetti · 13/11/2020 18:07

For some reason I tried to imagine Team Biden calling the UK and asking to speak to a grown up.

ListeningQuietly · 13/11/2020 18:13

I cannot see Barnier offering another extension to transition
FFS its been 4 1/2 years since the vote.
Why should the EU keep pandering to UK faffing?

Arborea · 13/11/2020 18:20

Has Cummings actually gone though? twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1327313231220707329

ListeningQuietly · 13/11/2020 18:20

I do find it funny that the Pubwatch in Warrington ( @RedToothBrush ) have declared this bloke as unwelcome in every pub in the town due to his support for the Curfew
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-54921962

I can think of a few other people who could be treated similarly Wink

Zixxy · 13/11/2020 18:22

According to LBC, no he will be there until mid December. Presumably to see how the faithless voter thinggy works out in the US and Trump is back!

This is ridiculous manipulation of a position that is unelected.

TheElementsOfMedical · 13/11/2020 18:24

What Cummings is carrying in his box is... a squirrel.

TheMShip · 13/11/2020 18:25

It sounds definite that both Cummings and Cain are gone as of today.

Steven Swinford:
PM held a 45 minute meeting with Dom Cummings and Lee Cain this afternoon

All sides say Number 10 team has been very upset this week by sudden announcement of their departures - morale very low, talk of toxic atmosphere

PM said he felt it best if both of them left today

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