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Westminstenders: Another day of fear and toil

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RedToothBrush · 21/10/2019 22:03

In a move that surprised no one paying attention, Bercow refused to let Johnson put the WA back to the house today after it had already been presented to the house on Saturday.

This move upset the government but was entirely predictable.

This means that the only way the deal can move forward is through the WA's implementation bill (the WAB). It was published for the first time tonight (all 100 pages of it) and it will be presented to the house tomorrow.

In a lightning fast timetable parliament will be asked to scruntise it. This of course is reckless in the extreme for such an important piece of legislation. The speed at which it is being forced through is the thing that looks most likely to ruffle feathers.

The government is still trying to pretend it can make the 31st October deadline and leave by then. The reality is there isn't enough time for parliament to pass the necessary legislation and the EU will need to also ratify the deal, which in a best case scenario won't happen until next week with an extraordinary EU meeting to do so. This is much more likely to occur the week after at the earliest.

The reality is the EU need an extension themselves which is why we are very likely to get at least a short technical one and remain in the EU beyond next Thursday. It's in the UK and EU's interest if we do want to get a deal done.

Everything that Johnson does though is about optics ahead of a GE. It has to play it all as if he has been prevented from leaving as he promised.

We wait to see the pieces of a deal fall into place. It is in progress now finally it seems. For better or worse.

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Grinchly · 22/10/2019 19:30

Oh the programme vote dictates the GE...
God that gnat sized intellect Bridgen on C4

barnun · 22/10/2019 19:30

They're saying they think the govt has won...

BigChocFrenzy · 22/10/2019 19:30

Sam Coates Skky@SamCoatesSky*

Some confidence amongst the rebel alliance they’ve defeated the government on the programme motion - but it’s not over til it’s over

Monst3ra · 22/10/2019 19:31

This is quite awful.

barnun · 22/10/2019 19:31

Hopefully they have no fucking clue

tobee · 22/10/2019 19:31

Please not a tie

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 22/10/2019 19:31

Ah buggering fuck. Labour teller is on our left so far. Deakin is it.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 22/10/2019 19:31

Layla Moran 🔶 🏳️‍🌈
@LaylaMoran
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7m
DUP in the lobbies voting No with us. And some LabLeaves. We HOPE we have defeated the Gov. let’s see. 🤞

PotterHead1985 · 22/10/2019 19:32

......... my heart.

Yessss

prettybird · 22/10/2019 19:32

Ayes 308
Noes 322

Programme motion fails - good Smile

SansaSnark · 22/10/2019 19:32

Noes have it.

flouncyfanny · 22/10/2019 19:32

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BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 22/10/2019 19:32

Woohoo!!!!!! High five with mini bercows Grin

runningintothesunset · 22/10/2019 19:32

Thank goodness for that!

tobee · 22/10/2019 19:32

Hoo fuckin ray!!!!

BigChocFrenzy · 22/10/2019 19:33

VOTE RESULT: GOVERNMENT LOSES
Ayes: 308
Noes: 322
The result means the House of Commons has rejected the government's timetable for the Withdrawal Agreement Bill's passage through the House of Commons.

MockersthefeMANist · 22/10/2019 19:33

BJ is officially fucked.

Grinchly · 22/10/2019 19:33

Thank fuck

thecatfromjapan · 22/10/2019 19:33

Oh my.

I don't think I realised I wasn't breathing.

Feel quite light-headed now.

TheMShip · 22/10/2019 19:33

Jon Worth prediction was very close Grin

So, so relieved. Now what?

barnun · 22/10/2019 19:33

Oh thank heavens

satanstoenailsandwich · 22/10/2019 19:33

Ooh. GE it is then.

LoueyLou · 22/10/2019 19:33

Bridgen calling for the abolition of the Supreme Court on Channel 4, yet since banging on about Democracy Confused

ListeningQuietly · 22/10/2019 19:34

I am NOW going to pour myself a drink sorry BigChoc

prettybird · 22/10/2019 19:34

So WTF is BJ going to do next?

VONC in his own government?

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