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Westminstenders: Prime Minister Johnson

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RedToothBrush · 23/07/2019 22:58

It is actually happening.

By 5pm tomorrow Johnson should be Prime Minister, if nothing major goes wrong for him.

Phillip Hammond is expected to resign early in the morning. And there maybe others.

Parliament goes into recess on Thursday. Giving Johnson only enough time to announce a Cabinet and maybe give a brief statement in Parliament.

As it stands Johnson will have an effective majority of 1 if the Brecon by-election goes the way expected next week.

Unless someone else defects. Which isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

We also have Charlie Elphicke now suspended and facing a court appearance on 6th September, just 3 days after Parliament returns after the summer recess.

Remember when parliament returns Johnson must get a Queen's Speech vote to pass to start the new session.

The return of Parliament is 8 weeks before 31st October.

If Johnson can't pass a Queen's Speech... Is there time for a GE before 31st October? By the skin of our teeth? Or a crucial recall petition?

So for all the talk that parliament can we prevented from being prorogued or that we can get a deal by the 31st October, there is a GE shaped problem.

As for Johnson's plan for Brexit. Don't expect to see him say anything but waffly bollocks before that key Queens Speech vote. He can't. Instead expect lots of domestic promises - in part to distract, in part in prep for a possible snap election.

Of course to have an extension the Prime Minister needs to ask for it. Would a GE be enough to get one? And would we be granted one?

On the flip to that is the prospect of May's Deal. Much has been made of its death. But some have said its premature to say that. At the eleventh hour should the situation arise would parliament vote for it, backstop and all, to prevent no deal? Its not beyond the realms of possibility.

All the talk of Johnson driving a change of direction by the force of personality is nonsense. Johnson can use his personality domestically for support, but he his personality offers nothing to the EU.

On top of this all we have the Iran Oil Tanker Crisis. The US were alleged to have set us up, and now told us to look after our own tankers. Leaving us to look to Europe for international security cooperation in the area... Irony isn't lost.

Let us see what tomorrow might bring though...

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Mistigri · 24/07/2019 21:29

He thinks he can win an election, probably with Farage. This isn't a cabinet intended to govern.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2019 21:30

My brain is not working

  • 39 C until the weekend in Germany; hottest ever summer etc

Is BJ a climate change denier now, like his US besties ?

Mistigri · 24/07/2019 21:31

It's such a terrible cabinet that it's really hard to work out which is the worst appointment.

Patel? Williamson? Raab?

This is one for the ages.

QuckTheDuck · 24/07/2019 21:32

For the stupid like me, when the cabinet is confirmed, please can we have a run down of who is who and their highlights of shite? Just so it is all in one place to refer to? Pretty please? :) for those like myself with memory problems!

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2019 21:34

Javid & Gove are genuinely clever, whatever their moral values

The rest looks The Cabinet of Fools

Roid Rage man as Foreign Sec, maybe Deputy PM Hmmdealing with Iran over captured ships - v high sphincter factor

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 21:34

Oh no JRM just gone in!

derxa · 24/07/2019 21:35

It's such a terrible cabinet that it's really hard to work out which is the worst appointment
I agree. What the hell is he playing at? Is it a horrible game?

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 21:36

Watching Sam Coates on Sky. He is so caffeined up. Very animated and funny.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2019 21:36

Peter Walkerr@peterwalker99*

The new cabinet minister in charge of housing, ladies and gentlemen.

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Ellie56 · 24/07/2019 21:36

Come back Theresa all is forgiven!

Ellie56 · 24/07/2019 21:37

This is all so shite I am beginning to think we would be better off with Jeremy Corbyn as PM. Shock

Rhubarbisevil · 24/07/2019 21:37

I was about to ask if the Dark Lord was making an appearance. What’s he got? Health and Family Planning?

QuckTheDuck · 24/07/2019 21:37

Something wierd happened on the radio today.

When announcing the weather they said "as it is almost 100 degrees" during a segment about the railways - I was like WHAT? We are not the US yet Very odd and I have never heard them say it before. Then on the weather section, it was as" it is due to reach 36 degrees which is almost 100 Fahrenheit."

Getting us used to US lingo already? (this was after BJ was confirmed and they had not done it earlier today)

Mistigri · 24/07/2019 21:38

Very clever appointment by Boris Johnson, as he doesn’t want to be known as the “worst foreign secretary ever” forever. Grin

@ruitavares on twitter

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 21:38

Well it gets worse. Ester McVey back in. Just shoot me now.

Alsohuman · 24/07/2019 21:40

McVey? Nooooooooo, she’s on a par with Patel.

QuckTheDuck · 24/07/2019 21:40

To clarify, the first segment made no mention of deg/cel, literally just said 100 degrees with no qualifier. IT was like listening to the radio from the wrong country.

yolofish · 24/07/2019 21:40

Jesus... 'may you live in interesting times' indeed.

Hard to work out who I hate most at this stage.

Do I detect the hand of Dominic Cummings behind this? Doubt Johnson would have got his lard arse into gear quite so quickly if left to himself.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2019 21:41

Any bets on how long before Raab starts a war ?

NoWordForFluffy · 24/07/2019 21:43

Given the Iran situation, BCF, I'm guessing less than a week.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2019 21:43

😂
<a class="break-all" href="http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=mobile.twitter.com/peterwalker99" target="_blank">Peter Walkerr<a class="break-all" href="http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=mobile.twitter.com/peterwalker99" target="_blank">@peterwalker99

With Priti Patel, Grant Shapps and Gavin Williamson back in the cabinet,

Boris Johnson's government is in danger of resembling some sort of heist film where they bust all the old lags out of prison for one last job.
😂

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2019 21:44

I wonder how many will end up in prison ....

tobee · 24/07/2019 21:44

Duck I think they often do it in Fahrenheit when it's a number like that; more striking to say 100 than 37.778 Celsius Grin

It comes to something when you think Javid as chancellor not too bad!

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 21:46

BJ initiating all-out Tory civil war ?

Purge to kill off opposition in party. If you don't tow the line you get deselected. Its trying to kill off Brexit party, that's for sure.

But the party will haemorrhage liberals too. DH was talking to a former Tory Councillor round our way the other day. He has quit the party and now voting LD which is a shocker.

Some will stick with the tories but if he's going for a pact with the Brexit Party how does that work if they are the same as them?

I don't know. Its a pitch to make us the 51st state alright and to destroy human rights in the country. Its not pretty.

We are definitely leaving on 31st Oct that's for sure. But it's not going to be a nice exit.

He's gambling on liberal Tories being wet and towing the line and thinking Corbyn is worse.

Corbyn is his gift. That's the truth of it.

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NoWordForFluffy · 24/07/2019 21:46

Yeah, I think that re 100 degrees, tobee.

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