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Brexit

Westminstenders: Adrift at Sea

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 13/03/2019 14:35

After May lost the Meaningful Vote last night by a long way she has lost control of the agenda. She managed to persuade just 40 out of the 116 she needed to support here.

This leaves us all adrift with nothing apparent to a solution.

May announced that tonight's vote will be to stop No Deal. She has announced that it will be a free vote and she herself intends to vote against No Deal. This looks set to be blocked but the amendments that go with it are more important. Particularly the Spelman / Dromey amendment which is pitched to stop no deal completely (it doesn't) which is more about trying to kill off a Meaningful Vote III instead.

Tomorrow's vote is perhaps more important though. Its about an extension to a50. We NEED an extension. However the length of the extension is yet to be argued as is the purpose of the extension.

This is also against whispers that the Italian Far Right group has been lobbied by Leave.EU and Farage has directly asked Eurospectics in the EP to veto any extension. Whether this would happen remains to be seen but it certainly raises questions over an extension is even now possible. This was always a probable action; Banks & Farage have for 3 years aggitated to cause maximum problems for the government. Its also true that they only have power due to this dynamic of being a hostile force.

With No Deal so catastophic that Hammond today made the point in his Spring Budget that, if he feels there's almost nothing he'd feel able to do to mitigate the effects of what he sees as the car crash of no deal, this leaves one option on the table. Ironically it is possible that the actions of Banks and Co might be more likely to have that effect rather than to stop an extension. The question, however, would then be whether May had the guts to revoke.

We certainly have, at least, reached crunch point. Have we done so too late to make a difference? And will our new found sovereignity be twarted by Brexiteers inviting the interference of foriegn hostile forces to intervene?

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Littlespaces · 13/03/2019 19:04

Going to be close I think.

TokyoSushi · 13/03/2019 19:04
Shock
Sostenueto · 13/03/2019 19:04

Will the Tories obey the whips?

TokyoSushi · 13/03/2019 19:05

I assume they're being whipped to vote against Spelman?

MyNameIsArthur · 13/03/2019 19:05

I've just arrived. Not sure what's happening!

Sostenueto · 13/03/2019 19:06

Well Tories are yellow bellied. Up the Kyber pass if it fails. ( bites big chunk of Belgium bun).........

Littlespaces · 13/03/2019 19:07

Currently voting on Spelman Amendment.

67chevvyimpala · 13/03/2019 19:07

I wish I had a cream cake sos

Sostenueto · 13/03/2019 19:09

Cooper working so hard all through this chaos giving backbenchers a voice. Hope she can pull this one off.

PestyMachtubernahme · 13/03/2019 19:09

Sos if your cream belgium bun makes you sick today, try marzipan tomorrow. Cream and chocolate both make me mucusy and prone to being sick. But, marzipan hits the sweet mark.

Sostenueto · 13/03/2019 19:09

chevvy just for you!CakeWine

dontcallmelen · 13/03/2019 19:10

Thanks Red, I now have no idea what’s going on.

BestIsWest · 13/03/2019 19:10

Pmk

Grinchly · 13/03/2019 19:10

Mmm marzipan ...

Sostenueto · 13/03/2019 19:11

Ah! pesty have a battenburg in cupboard will try it tomorrow and CakeWine for you too!

dontcallmelen · 13/03/2019 19:11

Yy Yvette Cooper.

Sostenueto · 13/03/2019 19:12

Cripes the suspense!

FiddleFaddleDingDong · 13/03/2019 19:12

Yvette Cooper is the Charlton Heston is this glacial paced disaster movie.

AutumnCrow · 13/03/2019 19:12

I will always have extra respect for Yvette Cooper after these last five weeks.

PestyMachtubernahme · 13/03/2019 19:13

Yvette Cooper is proving to be quite a states woman.

Littlespaces · 13/03/2019 19:13

Win or lose, Yvette is a star.

67chevvyimpala · 13/03/2019 19:13

Ugh!
Marzipan is satan's playdoh 🤢
Love Yvette cooper!

LewesHamilton · 13/03/2019 19:14

Sorry haven't kept up, but DH and I noticed a woman in yellow dress yesterday and today in the House. Is she an MP and does anyone know the significance of the yellow, or are we reading too much into it

Sostenueto · 13/03/2019 19:15

How many hardened brexiteers?

Butterymuffin · 13/03/2019 19:15

Sky News talking about a two year extension request. If only! Crossing fingers for this amendment.